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2012 NHL Play Off Thread  
User currently offlineYVRLTN From Canada, joined Oct 2006, 2493 posts, RR: 0
Posted (2 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 2811 times:

I guess most Canadians dont care   but its NHL play off time again

As they say, how do you know its spring in Canada? The Leafs are out 

Match ups

Flyers vs Pens
Wings vs Preds
Kings vs Canucks
Sens vs Rangers
Caps vs Bruins

My guesses are:

Pens in 6 - just because #87
Preds in 7 - tough call
Canucks in 5 - too good for LA (as long as Schneider plays mostly)
Rangers in 5 - again should be easy but not quite a sweep
Bruins in 6 - head speaking, heart would love to see Ovechkin step up a gear and eliminate those a$$holes  D)


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User currently offlinejetblueguy22 From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 2808 posts, RR: 4
Reply 1, posted (2 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 2805 times:
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All I have to say is go Rangers! They've got it this year I think. I'm hoping the Penguins go down just because I can't stand Crosby and my buddy is a die hard.
Blue



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User currently offlinestarbuk7 From United States of America, joined Apr 2008, 599 posts, RR: 5
Reply 2, posted (2 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 2777 times:

You missed a few match-ups:

Rangers - Senators
Bruins - Capitols
Panthers - Devils
Penguins - Flyers

Canucks - Kings
Blues - Sharks
Coyotes - Blackhawks
Predators - Redwings

I am rooting for my Penguins all the way. Not sure how the rest of the match-ups will turn out though.


User currently offlineDano1977 From British Indian Ocean Territory, joined Jun 2008, 500 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (2 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 2772 times:

My money is on Penguins for the cup!


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User currently offlineGrahamHill From France, joined Mar 2007, 2850 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (2 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days ago) and read 2759 times:

Playoffs without the Canadiens are not proper playoffs  .

Anyway, my predictions:

Rangers - Senators: Rangers in 5
Bruins - Capitals: Bruins in 6
Panthers - Devils: Devils in 7
Penguins - Flyers: Penguins in 7

Canucks - Kings: Canucks in 5
Blues - Sharks: Blues in 6
Coyotes - Blackhawks: Chicago in 6
Predators - Redwings: Nashville in 6

I'm really looking forward to Pens v. Flyers. Also, Bruins v. Capitals and Preds v. Redwings should be interesting  



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User currently offlineYVRLTN From Canada, joined Oct 2006, 2493 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (2 years 6 months 2 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 2711 times:

Scores from yesterday

Flyers 4 - Pens 3 (Pens took a 3-0 lead and the first Flyers goal was a mile off side and they won it in OT)
Wings 2 - Preds 3
Kings 4 - Canucks 2

Down to earth with a bump for Canuck nation, terrible performance, 2 game suspension for Bitz (rightly so) & Luongo was probably their best player.

The NHL have changed the rules again for the play offs and there are a lot of calls, particularly for charging and snow showers not given in the regular season. Its not like the Preds or Wings to get as many calls... and its no excuse for the Canucks to lose and play so badly, but the refs need to put the whistle away a bit more and it will really irk everybody if they carry on like this but at the same time miss such a blatant off side (Flyers 1st goal).

Three games playing right now, Rangers are whooping the Sens 4 zip, Sharks are 1 up on the Blues and the Caps are tied goalless with the Bruins so far.



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User currently offlinejetblueguy22 From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 2808 posts, RR: 4
Reply 6, posted (2 years 6 months 2 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 2705 times:
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Quoting YVRLTN (Reply 5):
Flyers 4 - Pens 3 (Pens took a 3-0 lead and the first Flyers goal was a mile off side and they won it in OT)
Wings 2 - Preds 3
Kings 4 - Canucks 2

Great games thus far IMO. As a Rangers fan it is tough to root for the Flyers but boy do I hate the Penguins. I bet my buddy after the second Bygrz wouldn't lose it for em. He thought he made a safe bet. I won a dinner though    . I was excited to see the Rangers do work and happy the Canucks lost. Get the Sedin sisters out of the playoffs asap.
Blue



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User currently offlinemke717spotter From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 2458 posts, RR: 5
Reply 7, posted (2 years 6 months 2 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 2692 times:

Coyotes nearly coughed one up tonight - gave up a game-tying goal with literally seconds left on the clock in the 3rd period but managed to survive in OT. Despite being seeded third it still seems like they're the underdog in the series, hopefully they can pull it out after they were swept in the first round last year.


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User currently offlinesteeler83 From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 9236 posts, RR: 21
Reply 8, posted (2 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 2669 times:

That Pens game pissed me off. They cannot allow for that to continue. This series will end way too quickly if they keep getting soft...


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User currently offlinehomer71 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 2245 posts, RR: 14
Reply 9, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 2649 times:

Quoting YVRLTN (Reply 5):
Down to earth with a bump for Canuck nation

...and the possibility of another riot - but it is a long series so we'll see



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User currently offlinePHX787 From Japan, joined Mar 2012, 7757 posts, RR: 18
Reply 10, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 2626 times:

Quoting GrahamHill (Reply 4):
Playoffs without the Canadiens are not proper playoffs .

   we'll get them next year!!!

As a Phoenix resident, I was ecstatic to see the overtime win last night! MMMMMIKE SMITH!!!!!



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User currently offlinemham001 From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 3681 posts, RR: 3
Reply 11, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 2624 times:

I don't understand why they even have a regular season, they should just start out with the playoffs. Don't more teams make the playoffs than not? Seems they last as long as the regular season, crap, they are still playing ice hockey in June...wake us when it's over.

User currently offlineseb146 From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 11720 posts, RR: 15
Reply 12, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 2622 times:

Quoting homer71 (Reply 9):
and the possibility of another riot - but it is a long series so we'll see

The problem is: The Canucks are trying to earn The Cup the old fashioned way: by playing. Instead of being an American team and giving the board of governors cash.

Quoting mham001 (Reply 11):
...wake us when it's over.

Says the baseball fan. That season runs March to November? Right? Eight months of watching a game of catch. *yawn*



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User currently offlineCadet985 From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 1602 posts, RR: 4
Reply 13, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 2620 times:

Quoting YVRLTN (Thread starter):
Pens in 6 - just because #87
Quoting steeler83 (Reply 8):

That Pens game pissed me off. They cannot allow for that to continue. This series will end way too quickly if they keep getting soft...

My Flyers are looking like a HOT team right now. All I can do when I think about Pittsburgh - the city and the Penguins - is laugh.

Marc


User currently offlineYVRLTN From Canada, joined Oct 2006, 2493 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 2575 times:

Quoting jetblueguy22 (Reply 6):
Get the Sedin sisters out of the playoffs asap

Only one is playing, Daniel is out with concussion. If the Canucks carry on the way they are, looks like your wish will be granted.........

Recent scores

12th
Caps 0 vs Bruins 1 (OT win)
Hawks 2 vs Coyotes 3
13th
Devils 3 vs Panthers 2
Flyers 8 vs Pens 5
Wings 3 vvs Preds 2
Kings 4 vs Canucks 2
14th
Caps 2 vs Bruins 1
Sens 3 vs Rangers 2
Sharks 0 vs Blues 3
Hawks 1 vs Coyotes 2



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User currently offlineWestJet747 From Canada, joined Aug 2011, 1875 posts, RR: 10
Reply 15, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 2566 times:

Quoting YVRLTN (Reply 14):
Flyers 8 vs Pens 5

Probably the best game of the playoffs so far. I've got Giroux on my fantasy team, so it helped go from second last in my work's fantasy pool to second in only one night!

Quoting mham001 (Reply 11):
Don't more teams make the playoffs than not?

16 teams make it, 14 do not.

Quoting seb146 (Reply 12):
Says the baseball fan. That season runs March to November? Right? Eight months of watching a game of catch. *yawn*

Agreed. 162 games is ridiculous. But I guess it's easier to play that many games when you're playing laziest sport on the planet   



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User currently offlinePHX787 From Japan, joined Mar 2012, 7757 posts, RR: 18
Reply 16, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 2531 times:

Jeez-- today's Flyers vs Pens game....did we just witness a boxing match, or what?


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User currently offlineWestJet747 From Canada, joined Aug 2011, 1875 posts, RR: 10
Reply 17, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 2528 times:

Quoting PHX787 (Reply 16):
Jeez-- today's Flyers vs Pens game....did we just witness a boxing match, or what?

Crosby is an embarrassment. All he did all game was run his mouth and start 3 fights that he couldn't finish. I used to be a huge fan of him, but ever since he returned from injury he has been a total disgrace. Captains should never behave like that.

That game had some rough goaltending though. Bylsma and Laviolette must be losing their minds.



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User currently offlineGrahamHill From France, joined Mar 2007, 2850 posts, RR: 2
Reply 18, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 2523 times:

I predicted the Penguins in 7, but it looks like it's going to be a sweep from the Flyers...

Out of 164 times, only 3 teams managed to recover from a 3-0 deficit: the Leafs in 1942, the Islanders in 1975 and the Flyers in 2010. It does not give much hope for Pitts.



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User currently offlineUSPIT10L From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 3295 posts, RR: 7
Reply 19, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 2518 times:

Quoting PHX787 (Reply 16):
Jeez-- today's Flyers vs Pens game....did we just witness a boxing match, or what?
Quoting WestJet747 (Reply 17):
Crosby is an embarrassment. All he did all game was run his mouth and start 3 fights that he couldn't finish. I used to be a huge fan of him, but ever since he returned from injury he has been a total disgrace. Captains should never behave like that.

That game had some rough goaltending though. Bylsma and Laviolette must be losing their minds.

As disgraceful as the game was, I have to say I'm sick and tired of the league refusing to run the game right. Get the calls right! Period. The tying Briere goal in Game 1 was offside--several calls today were bad. There is no excuse for swallowing your whistle or making a bad call! Don't get me started on the classless Flyer fans today!  



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User currently offlinejetblueguy22 From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 2808 posts, RR: 4
Reply 20, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 2514 times:
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Quoting PHX787 (Reply 16):
Jeez-- today's Flyers vs Pens game....did we just witness a boxing match, or what?

That has to be one of the craziest games I've ever watched. I'd be surprised if some suspensions don't come from the NHL, especially on the Penguins side. There were some scary shots. Their bench was a ghost town at the end of the game. Though It was entertaining to watch. I just wish someone really would have put Crosby in his place. The refs protected him like a newborn. I wish this Crosby mania will go away. He is a great hockey player, but they make him out to be the best ever. Though it does look like this series will be over soon. I thought for sure it would go to at least 5 or 6 games. But possibly 4 is shocking.
Blue



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User currently offlineflymia From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 7213 posts, RR: 9
Reply 21, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 2505 times:

And the Rats are back! Not that I am a big hockey fan but besides for the 12-14,000 people who go to hockey games on a consistent basis in South Florida I do not know anyone who is. Well I do have some Canadian friends from school but they do not have anyone to root for this year.

First playoff win since 1997! Wow that is a long time. It would be great to steal a game in NJ and bring back home ice but I wont get my hopes up. Playoff hockey is great though. I do not watch much during the regular season but if there is a game in the playoffs I am watching it. At least until the NBA playoffs start.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ky2QHT4UJ4M



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User currently offlineWestJet747 From Canada, joined Aug 2011, 1875 posts, RR: 10
Reply 22, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 2503 times:

Quoting jetblueguy22 (Reply 20):
I just wish someone really would have put Crosby in his place.

The media sure did. You should have seen his post-game interview. He was incredibly childish. When asked why he pushed away Voracek's glove when he was trying to pick it up, Crosby's answer was "I don't like anybody on that team...I just don't like them". The 11-year old house league kids I used to coach give more mature answers than that! I can't find a good link at the moment, but I'll post if I do find one. It's all over Sportscentre right now.

Quoting jetblueguy22 (Reply 20):
I'd be surprised if some suspensions don't come from the NHL, especially on the Penguins sid

I don't think anything was serious enough to warrant suspensions (look at what Weber got away with the other night) but I expect to see some fines.

Quoting USPIT10L (Reply 19):
Get the calls right! Period.

   Reffing in this particular series has been awful.

Quoting flymia (Reply 21):
Well I do have some Canadian friends from school but they do not have anyone to root for this year.

Oh, I didn't realize Ottawa and Vancouver were in the US!



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User currently offlineUSPIT10L From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 3295 posts, RR: 7
Reply 23, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 2501 times:

Quoting WestJet747 (Reply 22):
Reffing in this particular series has been awful.

And I thought Pittsburgh was supposed to be the NHL's "golden franchise." Not that I want preferential treatment, just a fair fight. Canadians wonder why Lemieux called the league a "garage league"? Here's a really good reason why! I'm sorry, Canadians, but the fighting's gotta go--this was not a hockey game, neither was the last game. As long as Buttman and company keep listening to dinosaurs like Cherry and Milbury, this is what they get! I know our defense has been suspect the last few weeks, but please!



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User currently offlineflymia From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 7213 posts, RR: 9
Reply 24, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 2502 times:

Quoting WestJet747 (Reply 22):
Oh, I didn't realize Ottawa and Vancouver were in the US!


Completely forgot Ottawa was in it. As for Vancouver I am aware, watching right now really talking more about east coast as 100% of the Canadians I know are from Montreal or Toronto.

Question:
Do Montreal, Edmonton Toronto etc.. or really any Canadian team fan root for Ottawa or Vancouver or is it more of a dislike for those rival teams and rather see a US team win? Or it really depends on which team I imagine.



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User currently offlineBMI727 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 15781 posts, RR: 27
Reply 25, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 2527 times:

Quoting USPIT10L (Reply 23):
Here's a really good reason why! I'm sorry, Canadians, but the fighting's gotta go--this was not a hockey game, neither was the last game.

When you have two of the league's top players suffering from post-concussion symptoms it looks that much dumber. Want to reduce head injuries? Stop letting guys punch each other in the face.



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User currently offlineapodino From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 4287 posts, RR: 6
Reply 26, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 2524 times:

Quoting jetblueguy22 (Reply 20):

That has to be one of the craziest games I've ever watched. I'd be surprised if some suspensions don't come from the NHL, especially on the Penguins side. There were some scary shots. Their bench was a ghost town at the end of the game. Though It was entertaining to watch. I just wish someone really would have put Crosby in his place. The refs protected him like a newborn. I wish this Crosby mania will go away. He is a great hockey player, but they make him out to be the best ever. Though it does look like this series will be over soon. I thought for sure it would go to at least 5 or 6 games. But possibly 4 is shocking.
Blue

Very entertaining game today. Asham is definitely going to be getting a phone call from Mr. Shanahan, and I believe he will be suspended for that hit. I personally thought Crosby acted like a complete punk today, and he did not earn my respect. Basically what happened today was Philly was way more disciplined than Pittsburgh. I thought this series was going to go seven, and I am shocked that Philly is up 3-0. I didn't think the reffing in Game 3 was that bad, other than not handing a misconduct penalty late in the game, which led to the hair pulling incident.

Here are my predictions for the rest of the series.

Philly will win, just not convinced it will be a sweep yet.
Rangers over Ottawa in six.
Bruins over Washington in 7. With the low scoring nature of the series, it favors Boston in the long run.
NJ over Florida in 6.

Nashville over Detroit in 7
LA over Vancouver in 6
St. Louis over San Jose in 7
Chicago over Phoenix in 6

If my predictions hold true, the Rangers and the Devils have some bad blood going back to the regular season, which should make that an entertaining game. The Bruins and the Flyers had some very good games in the regular season as well. In the west, that would leave St. Louis vs LA, and then Chicago vs Nashville. Those will be great series, though not as great as the eastern series you will get.


User currently offlineGrahamHill From France, joined Mar 2007, 2850 posts, RR: 2
Reply 27, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 2545 times:

Quoting flymia (Reply 24):
Or it really depends on which team I imagine.

I think so too. For example, if Montreal were out of the playoffs, but Toronto weren't, you would never see a Habs fan rooting for the Leafs, no matter what.



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User currently offlineWestJet747 From Canada, joined Aug 2011, 1875 posts, RR: 10
Reply 28, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 2541 times:

Quoting USPIT10L (Reply 23):
I'm sorry, Canadians, but the fighting's gotta go

It's not an issue of whether fighting should be allowed or not. It's an issue of all these kids coming into the league thinking they're tough. In my opinion, fighting should be left to the fighters.

Quoting flymia (Reply 24):
Do Montreal, Edmonton Toronto etc.. or really any Canadian team fan root for Ottawa or Vancouver or is it more of a dislike for those rival teams and rather see a US team win? Or it really depends on which team I imagine.

Doesn't have much to do with nationality. Canadian fans just hate other Canadian teams out of rivalry. I'm a Montreal fan, and if Toronto was the only team left in the playoffs (not likely to happen anytime soon) I doubt I would cheer for them.

Quoting BMI727 (Reply 25):
When you have two of the league's top players suffering from post-concussion symptoms it looks that much dumber. Want to reduce head injuries? Stop letting guys punch each other in the face.

Sorry but that's way off. A very high majority of concussions and head injuries in hockey are related to hits to the head (charging, boarding, elbowing, etc), not from fighting.



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User currently offlineBMI727 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 15781 posts, RR: 27
Reply 29, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 2539 times:

Quoting WestJet747 (Reply 28):
Sorry but that's way off. A very high majority of concussions and head injuries in hockey are related to hits to the head (charging, boarding, elbowing, etc), not from fighting.

Doesn't matter. If you want to keep players safe, start by banning fighting. These guys get paid way too much to let them be hitting each other in the head outside of the game.



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User currently offlineflymia From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 7213 posts, RR: 9
Reply 30, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 2533 times:

Quoting WestJet747 (Reply 28):
Doesn't have much to do with nationality. Canadian fans just hate other Canadian teams out of rivalry. I'm a Montreal fan, and if Toronto was the only team left in the playoffs (not likely to happen anytime soon) I doubt I would cheer for them.
Quoting GrahamHill (Reply 27):
I think so too. For example, if Montreal were out of the playoffs, but Toronto weren't, you would never see a Habs fan rooting for the Leafs, no matter what.

I figured it would be that way.



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User currently offlineCadet985 From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 1602 posts, RR: 4
Reply 31, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 2528 times:

Quoting apodino (Reply 26):
Basically what happened today was Philly was way more disciplined than Pittsburgh.

This was mentioned tonight on one of our Sunday night sports shows here in Philly. Pittsburgh is an older, and presumably more mature team, whereas this Flyers team has a lot of rookies, so you'd expect them to want to prove their stuff. The opposite is happening. As a Flyers Fan, it is great to watch us totally dominate our instate rivals...both in character and on the ice.

I would post my opinion of Sidney Crosby, but I don't want to be banned for some of the words I'd use.

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User currently offlineGrahamHill From France, joined Mar 2007, 2850 posts, RR: 2
Reply 32, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 2525 times:

Canucks lost again tonight. They're 3-0 down, on the verge of being swept by LA. Jonathan Quick has been quite remarkable tonight, stopping 41 shots.


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User currently offlineYVRLTN From Canada, joined Oct 2006, 2493 posts, RR: 0
Reply 33, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 2440 times:

Quoting GrahamHill (Reply 32):
Canucks lost again tonight. They're 3-0 down, on the verge of being swept by LA. Jonathan Quick has been quite remarkable tonight, stopping 41 shots.

But only 9 / 41 caused him to actually move... shocking, lots of calls in Canuck nation for Vigneault to go today. Dont really agree, its up to the players, as one of the radio commenters said today, they need to learn to stop being chihuahua's and be doberman's - hole in one!

Update:

Quoting YVRLTN (Reply 14):
14th
Caps 2 vs Bruins 1
Sens 3 vs Rangers 2
Sharks 0 vs Blues 3
Hawks 1 vs Coyotes 2

Hawks vs Coyotes wasnt finsished when I typed, ended Hawks 4 vx Coyotes 3.

15th
Preds 3 vs Wings 2
Pens 4 vs Flyers 8
Devils 2 vs Panthers 4
Canucks 0 vs Kings 1

16th
Rangers 1 vs Sens 0
Bruins 4 vs Caps 3
Playing right now with just over 5 mins to go, currently
Blues 4 vs Sharks 1



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User currently offlineGrahamHill From France, joined Mar 2007, 2850 posts, RR: 2
Reply 34, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 2438 times:

Quoting YVRLTN (Reply 33):
Dont really agree, its up to the players, as one of the radio commenters said today, they need to learn to stop being chihuahua's and be doberman's - hole in one!

Agree. They need to get their attack back on track. I heard Daniel Sedin might play game 4. I don't know if it's reasonable for him, but it shows how desperate the situation is in Vancouver right now.

Otherwise, I watched the Rangers-Sens game tonight. It was really a great game, despite the low score. The Sens deserved better, but Lundqvist has been imperial again.

I also love the playoffs atmosphere. The crowd of Scotiabank place was amazing.



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User currently offlinePHX787 From Japan, joined Mar 2012, 7757 posts, RR: 18
Reply 35, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 2394 times:

Quoting USPIT10L (Reply 19):
Don't get me started on the classless Flyer fans today!  

You kidding me? They have so much class! They have so much class, the Queen is jealous!      



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User currently offlineGuitrThree From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 2054 posts, RR: 8
Reply 36, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 2391 times:

Preds up 3-1. Wings age finally caught up to them?? Looking for an electric crowd at the Tire Barn in Nashville Friday to finish them off.


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User currently offlineBMI727 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 15781 posts, RR: 27
Reply 37, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 2382 times:

The NHL should be ashamed and embarrassed after the last few days. Brendan Shanahan is an idiot and should resign immediately, having been incompetent enough to accidentally give Shea Weber's three game suspension to Andrew Shaw. The least he should do is give finish Raffi Torres' season as a parting shot.


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User currently offlineYVRLTN From Canada, joined Oct 2006, 2493 posts, RR: 0
Reply 38, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 2362 times:

Blues vs Sharks finishes 4-3 yesterday

Three more today

Panthers 4 vs Devils 3
Preds 3 vs Wings 1
Coyotes 3 vs Hawks 2

So in the west

Los Angeles Kings lead series 3-0 over Vancouver Canucks
St Louis Blues lead series 2-1 over San Jose Sharks
Phoenix Coyotes lease series 2-1 over Chicago Blackhawks
Nashville Predators lead series 4-1 over Detroit Redwings

In the east

New York Rangers lead the series 2-1 over Ottawa Senators
Boston Bruins lead the series 2-1 over Washington Capitals
Florida Panthers lead the series 2-1 over New Jersey Devils
Philadelphia Flyers lead the series 3-0 over Pittsburgh Penguins

There have been some great games and hockey, but its a shame they have been somewhat overshadowed by thugish behavior & resulting incompetency from the league.

Quoting GrahamHill (Reply 34):
I heard Daniel Sedin might play game 4. I don't know if it's reasonable for him, but it shows how desperate the situation is in Vancouver right now.

He said he would not play unless he felt 100%, and seems hes been OK for a week, but he is not match fit - could see some much needed PP cameos, will be a physcological boost, but probably too little too late. At the end of the day, if you cant beat 8th seed LA, albeit much improved with the new coach, how do you expect to progress past Nashville, Phoenix, Boston or anyone for that matter?!



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User currently offlineblink182 From Azerbaijan, joined Oct 1999, 5482 posts, RR: 15
Reply 39, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 2345 times:

Quoting BMI727 (Reply 37):

The NHL should be ashamed and embarrassed after the last few days. Brendan Shanahan is an idiot and should resign immediately, having been incompetent enough to accidentally give Shea Weber's three game suspension to Andrew Shaw. The least he should do is give finish Raffi Torres' season as a parting shot.

Agree entirely Weber should have gotten Shaw's three games; what Weber did to Zetterberg wasn't a hockey play. For Shaw, Smith naturally went down, but if four or five doctors have to come out on the ice, Smith should have been pulled. Instead, Smith finished the game without incident and has now won two games. In the case of Weber, Shanahan's rationale was that Zetterberg wasn't hurt. Shouldn't that same rationale prevail for Shaw, which appeared to be somewhat accidental? So, is it about the action? The injury? Or the star-status of the player involved?

Neal was given one game this morning for his two hits against Philadelphia in a game that was more of a wrestling match than a hockey game, and that's as a repeat offender. Neal should have gotten two, bare minimum, one game minimum for each hit. Asham, rightfully so, got four games, and Backstrom got one.

Nothing yet known on Torres, but Shanahan has to throw the book at him, a multiple repeat offender who left his feet and gave Hossa a late and direct hit to the head, which possibly took him out of the series. Torres has a lengthy discipline history, so I hope and suspect that Shanahan will not be lenient.



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User currently offlineelbandgeek From United States of America, joined Jun 2008, 758 posts, RR: 0
Reply 40, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 2332 times:

I have never been so livid leaving a game as I was last night. Torres is a scumbag who has now gotten away with cheap headhits on my team TWICE (exactly a year apart go figure) with an average of 1 penalty minute between them. If Shanahan doesn't throw everything he has at him, I'm done with this joke of a league.
It's time for them to draw a line in the sand with repeat offenders like him and let them know without a doubt if they don't turn things around they will be gone for good, but Shanahan clearly doesn't have the balls for it. As it stands right now, when they "made of example" of Matt Cooke last year the only person in the entire league who actually got the message was Matt Cooke. 17 game suspension and he has completely changed his game, and it wasn't just him saying "oh well I won't elbow people in the head anymore" it was he had to work the entire offseason practically relearning his entire playing style and he should be given all the credit that's left in the league for it. With what Shanahan has been doing all season: 1 game here, 3 games there, even the occasional 5+....all with absolutely no consistency, it's not enough to get it through anyone's head and convince them to change, but he won't man up and dish out the punishments that need to be dished out on people like Torres.
But what pissed me off more than anything was finding out after I had left that Bettman was actually there, and that basically just shrugged off the hit like it was nothing. I had joked at the beginning of the series that he had some conspiracy going to make the Coyotes win and I'm actually starting to believe it along with everyone I was sitting around. The horrible officiating, doing nothing about Smith's now multiple Oscar worthy performances, and not even acting concerned when one of the league's best players get sent off in a stretcher. It's a disgrace and the sooner someone finally outs him the better everything will be. As much as I hate to say it, they need another lockout to get their act together before someone gets killed.


User currently offlineWestJet747 From Canada, joined Aug 2011, 1875 posts, RR: 10
Reply 41, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 2324 times:

Quoting GuitrThree (Reply 36):
Brendan Shanahan is an idiot and should resign immediately

At least he has more balls than the last guy. Campbell would rather drop a big fine and let the guy play the next day than to actually make him sit.

Quoting BMI727 (Reply 37):
having been incompetent enough to accidentally give Shea Weber's three game suspension to Andrew Shaw

Are you they should both get suspensions, or that Weber should and Shaw shouldn't? Because Shaw absolutely deserved that suspension.

Quoting blink182 (Reply 39):
Neal was given one game this morning for his two hits against Philadelphia in a game that was more of a wrestling match than a hockey game, and that's as a repeat offender. Neal should have gotten two, bare minimum, one game minimum for each hit.

Shanahan only suspended Neal to make an example out of that embarrassment of a game. Under normal circumstances I don't think anything would have happened to Neal. I watched it live, and then again on Youtube, and although the hits were unnecessary, they definitely weren't bad enough to warrant this punishment.

Quoting elbandgeek (Reply 40):
doing nothing about Smith's now multiple Oscar worthy performances

You've got to be kidding me elbandgeek. I've been a goaltender since I was 6, I've been run at more times than I can count, and I can assure you that Smith was not acting on that hit from Shaw. He deserved those 3 games.

Quoting elbandgeek (Reply 40):
As much as I hate to say it, they need another lockout to get their act together before someone gets killed.

You're going to have to expound on this, because it doesn't make any sense.



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User currently offlineGrahamHill From France, joined Mar 2007, 2850 posts, RR: 2
Reply 42, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 2321 times:

Torres has been suspended indefinitely. His hearing will occur on Friday:

http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=628445



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User currently offlineconnies4ever From Canada, joined Feb 2006, 4066 posts, RR: 13
Reply 43, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 2304 times:

Quoting YVRLTN (Thread starter):
As they say, how do you know its spring in Canada? The Leafs are out

Aren't the Leafs officially eliminated after training camp ?

Quoting YVRLTN (Thread starter):
Canucks in 5 - too good for LA (as long as Schneider plays mostly)

Well, that's certainly not going to happen. Jonathan Quick is out tending Luongo/Schneider. Canucks scorers have gone silent.

Quoting YVRLTN (Thread starter):
Pens in 6 - just because #87

Also not going to happen.

Quoting jetblueguy22 (Reply 1):
All I have to say is go Rangers! They've got it this year I think

Rangers play a very solid defensive game and have Lundqvist is the nets. Difficult to get to the net.

Quoting YVRLTN (Reply 5):
but the refs need to put the whistle away a bit more

As far as I can recall, this has been the worst refereeing in the playoffs, ever. Many blown calls or non-calls, or incorrect calls.



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User currently offlineelbandgeek From United States of America, joined Jun 2008, 758 posts, RR: 0
Reply 44, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 2302 times:

Quoting WestJet747 (Reply 41):
I've been a goaltender since I was 6, I've been run at more times than I can count, and I can assure you that Smith was not acting on that hit from Shaw. He deserved those 3 games.

Give me a break
First of all, he should have not been allowed back in the net at all because of concussion protocol and yet he was perfectly "fine" to keep playing immediately after Shaw was ejected and not a second earlier. Then yesterday he was a "game time decision" up until the suspension ruling was announced. Don't even try to tell me he wasn't putting on a show. I'll admit Shaw could have been more careful but it was completely accidental contact, which if you watch in slow motion, was barely a tap that had him flailing all over the ice, and was not even close to worth 3 games except Shanahan decided to overcompensate for completely botching the Weber situation and chose Shaw as his sacrificial lamb because he's not a superstar and figured he wouldn't get called out on it.


User currently offlineBMI727 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 15781 posts, RR: 27
Reply 45, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 2297 times:

Quoting WestJet747 (Reply 41):
Because Shaw absolutely deserved that suspension.

No he didn't. He deserved a penalty for goaltender interference, and that's it. The contact was incidental. Look at the tape: he didn't lower the shoulder or aim for Smith's head. He just skated around the net and collided with him.

There's the front view of the hit and you can clearly see Shaw attempting to skate through the gap between Smith and the end boards - not aiming at Smith's body at all. The camera behind the glass clearly shows that it was a glancing blow - hardly a hit at all, let alone a dirty hit with intent to injure.



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User currently offlineWestJet747 From Canada, joined Aug 2011, 1875 posts, RR: 10
Reply 46, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 2296 times:

Quoting elbandgeek (Reply 44):
Give me a break
First of all, he should have not been allowed back in the net at all because of concussion protocol and yet he was perfectly "fine" to keep playing immediately after Shaw was ejected and not a second earlier. Then yesterday he was a "game time decision" up until the suspension ruling was announced. Don't even try to tell me he wasn't putting on a show.

Ok, let's explore this. By your logic, the time I was cross-checked in the throat by an opposing player and went, I should have been immediately pulled from the game, despite being temporarily winded. I don't know your sports history, but it doesn't take a pro athlete to know that you can be hurting for a minute or two and still be able to perform the remainder of the game after catching a breather. It's more than likely that Smith pinched something or got the wind knocked out of him and needed a minute on the ice to gather himself. I've had to do this dozens of times.

Quoting BMI727 (Reply 45):
The contact was incidental. Look at the tape: he didn't lower the shoulder or aim for Smith's head.

I'm looking at Shanny's video over and over again and I keep seeing the same thing: Shaw's shoulder making contact with Smith's helmet. Here is the video. Please pay special attention to the clips at 0:32-0:40 and 1:10-1:17. And obviously he didn't lower the should, Smith was standing straight up.

Quoting BMI727 (Reply 45):
He just skated around the net and collided with him.

Exactly! He collided with him! There was no attempt to avoid contact (aka stopping).



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User currently offlinePHX787 From Japan, joined Mar 2012, 7757 posts, RR: 18
Reply 47, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 2290 times:

Quoting GrahamHill (Reply 42):
Torres has been suspended indefinitely. His hearing will occur on Friday:

You know, I looked at this play a million times. There was nothing Torres could've done to slow down. He was traveling way too fast to try to get the puck, which was his fault, but suspending him is really just not the way to go.

The NHL really has its head up their ass right now with these suspensions. Let the dang players play!

If anybody should be suspended, it should be both the entire Pens and Flyers teams for their complete classlessness. Pathetic.

Quoting WestJet747 (Reply 41):
Quoting elbandgeek (Reply 40):
doing nothing about Smith's now multiple Oscar worthy performances

You've got to be kidding me elbandgeek. I've been a goaltender since I was 6, I've been run at more times than I can count, and I can assure you that Smith was not acting on that hit from Shaw. He deserved those 3 games.

Yeah the worst feeling in the world is to get clocked like Smith was when trying to send a puck out from behind the net. I was taken to the hospital once with head injuries from a similar hit when I was a senior in HS.



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User currently offlineconnies4ever From Canada, joined Feb 2006, 4066 posts, RR: 13
Reply 48, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 2282 times:

Interesting article on www.cbc.ca today: City of Markham (north side of TO) to vote on the 26th whether or not to build a $300M 20,000 seat arena/entertainment centre. That could clear the way for the Islanders to move to Toronto. Bettman has told the Leafs there would be no compensation. Building to be ready no later than 2015 - which is when the Isles lease run out.


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User currently offlineJetBlueGuy2006 From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 1662 posts, RR: 1
Reply 49, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 2284 times:

Quoting WestJet747 (Reply 22):
don't think anything was serious enough to warrant suspensions (look at what Weber got away with the other night)
Quoting blink182 (Reply 39):
In the case of Weber, Shanahan's rationale was that Zetterberg wasn't hurt. Shouldn't that same rationale prevail for Shaw, which appeared to be somewhat accidental? So, is it about the action? The injury? Or the star-status of the player involved?

There are a bunch of articles floating around about how Shanahan is trying to "make up" for the fine for the hit on Zetterberg

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1...han-is-making-up-for-past-mistakes

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nhl-pu...ride-unleashed-wave-154806457.html

http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2012/04/...-reactionary-chaos-takes-its-toll/

http://aol.sportingnews.com/nhl/stor...a-penguin-flyers-2012-nhl-playoffs

http://arizona.sbnation.com/phoenix-...es-and-why-the-nhl-should-keep-the

Just a sample. From what I have been reading today, a lot of the articles seem to center around a consistent theme:

When Shanahan didn't suspend Weber, it gave a signal to the rest of the NHL that hits like that will only get a fine. And now he is trying to re-assert his authority with the rash of suspensions.
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I find it interesting that the max fine as defined by the CBA is only $2,500 which is really low when the entry level contract in the NHL is around 400,000. I am a Red Wings fan, and remember when Shanahan was a star in Hockeytown; but this has gotten out of hand. He shouldn't use how severe the injury is to the player as the measuring stick to determine if and how long to suspend someone. Hopefully players are getting the message and things will clean up a bit in Round 2.



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User currently offlineBMI727 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 15781 posts, RR: 27
Reply 50, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 2271 times:

Quoting WestJet747 (Reply 46):
Exactly! He collided with him! There was no attempt to avoid contact (aka stopping).

You couldn't be more wrong.

Look at this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rELP0bYLg4
On the first camera view, look at where Shaw's path is taking him: not at Smith, but rather at the gap between Smith and the boards. Exactly where he would want to go in order to play the puck. Furthermore, there is no movement of the shoulder or elbow, nor does Shaw brace for the impact. The only movement is Shaw straightening up in an obvious attempt to slow down and slip past.

Now look at the second angle from behind the boards. Shaw almost completely misses Smith. The blow was a glancing one at best.

If Shaw was trying to hit Smith on purpose with the intent to injure, he made an exceptionally poor attempt. It would be like trying to kill someone by shooting at their feet.

The only conclusion is that the hit was completely accidental and Shaw was attempting to play the puck. This play should have only resulted in a goalie interference penalty and not a game misconduct, let alone a fine or suspension.

Quoting JetBlueGuy2006 (Reply 49):
He shouldn't use how severe the injury is to the player as the measuring stick to determine if and how long to suspend someone.

He obviously doesn't, otherwise Shaw would have never been suspended.



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User currently offlineconnies4ever From Canada, joined Feb 2006, 4066 posts, RR: 13
Reply 51, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 2267 times:

I am not sure I believe what I just saw. After 1 period, Pitt 4 Philly 3, 46 shorts, multiple penalties, 4 lead changes. Like river hockey. It''s being played at a break neck pace. No dirty stuff - yet. That is to come in the 3rd if it's a 1-goal game. The announcers on TSN are literally out of breath.


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User currently offlineWestJet747 From Canada, joined Aug 2011, 1875 posts, RR: 10
Reply 52, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 2275 times:

Quoting PHX787 (Reply 47):
You know, I looked at this play a million times. There was nothing Torres could've done to slow down. He was traveling way too fast to try to get the puck, which was his fault, but suspending him is really just not the way to go.

The part where Torres left his feet at the hit. No excuse for that.

Quoting connies4ever (Reply 48):
Interesting article on www.cbc.ca today: City of Markham (north side of TO) to vote on the 26th whether or not to build a $300M 20,000 seat arena/entertainment centre. That could clear the way for the Islanders to move to Toronto. Bettman has told the Leafs there would be no compensation. Building to be ready no later than 2015 - which is when the Isles lease run out.

They'll probably build the arena, but no NHL team is moving there. Proximity to Toronto is one of the biggest reasons the plans to move a team to Hamilton failed as they did, and Markham is a whole lot closer than Hamilton. Canadian teams have some of the greatest levels of loyalty among their fans, I doubt many in the GTA/Southwestern Ontario would jump ship to cheer for a second team in the area.

Quoting BMI727 (Reply 50):
You couldn't be more wrong.

Look at this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rELP...bYLg4

What are you trying to show me here? It's the exact same footage from the video I linked.

I'm sorry but you aren't going to change my mind. Shaw made a run at a vulnerable goaltender and he's sitting for it. I've been in Mike Smith's position multiple times and I have no sympathy for those players. Hurts like hell to take a hit when you aren't expecting it.



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User currently offlinesteeler83 From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 9236 posts, RR: 21
Reply 53, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 2274 times:

I'll be damned... The Pens do have life to 'em after all...

Ehhhh, but it's only the 2nd period. I'm sure we all thought the Pens would win games 1 and 2 and look at how that turned out...



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User currently offlinePSA53 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3072 posts, RR: 4
Reply 54, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 2267 times:

Quoting GrahamHill (Reply 32):
Canucks lost again tonight. They're 3-0 down, on the verge of being swept by LA. Jonathan Quick has been quite remarkable tonight, stopping 41 shots.

A major upset in the making? Kings go at it in 1/2 hr.Kings need to go all the way but I doubt it.Will see.

[Edited 2012-04-18 18:25:16]


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User currently offlineconnies4ever From Canada, joined Feb 2006, 4066 posts, RR: 13
Reply 55, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 2260 times:

Now Pitt 9 Philly 3 after 2. Looks like pond hockey. 7 PP goals total. Some ugliness evident, could be interesting in the 3rd.

Quoting WestJet747 (Reply 52):
They'll probably build the arena, but no NHL team is moving there. Proximity to Toronto is one of the biggest reasons the plans to move a team to Hamilton failed as they did, and Markham is a whole lot closer than Hamilton. Canadian teams have some of the greatest levels of loyalty among their fans, I doubt many in the GTA/Southwestern Ontario would jump ship to cheer for a second team in the area.

You can't season tix for the Maple Leafs -- at least not in this lifetime. My prediction is that Hamilton will NEVER get an NHL team, in fact they're likely to lose their AH L team. The Habs are building a 7,000 seat arena in Laval, which is just a short bus ride away from the Bell Centre. Mr Wang's lease with the Nassau County Coliseum runs out in 2015, which is when Markham's arena will be finished. Dave Shoalts wrote several years ago when all of Wang's arena proposals were getting trashed that the Isles would wind up in Toronto.

Quoting PSA53 (Reply 54):
A major upset in the making? Kings go at it in 1/2 hr.Kings need to go all the way but I doubt it.Will see.

Yeah, I think so. Jonathan Quick is making Vancouver's scorers look ordinary. Whovever has the hot goalie wins.



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User currently offlineconnies4ever From Canada, joined Feb 2006, 4066 posts, RR: 13
Reply 56, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 2255 times:

Final Pitt 10 Philly 3. Didn't see that one coming. Friday night in Pitt will be interesting.


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User currently offlineBMI727 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 15781 posts, RR: 27
Reply 57, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 2250 times:

Quoting WestJet747 (Reply 52):
What are you trying to show me here?

How completely wrong you are.

Quoting WestJet747 (Reply 52):
I've been in Mike Smith's position multiple times and I have no sympathy for those players. Hurts like hell to take a hit when you aren't expecting it.

Then you have a problem with the rules and not having penalties severe enough for goalie interference. The simple fact is that there is nothing about the Shaw hit that warrants even a game misconduct, much less a suspension.



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User currently offlineYVRLTN From Canada, joined Oct 2006, 2493 posts, RR: 0
Reply 58, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 2241 times:

Quoting connies4ever (Reply 56):
Final Pitt 10 Philly 3. Didn't see that one coming. Friday night in Pitt will be interesting.

Craziness... first time 10 scored in the playoffs since 1989, funnily enough between same teams!

Scores from tonight

Pens 10 vs Flyers 3 - series now 3-1 Flyers
Rangers 2 vs Sens 3 - series now 2-2
Canucks 3 vs Kings 1 - series now 3-1 Kings

Good call on playing Schneider for Vancouver - Luongo surely has to be back up goalie until he leaves now...



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User currently offlineconnies4ever From Canada, joined Feb 2006, 4066 posts, RR: 13
Reply 59, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 2231 times:

Quoting YVRLTN (Reply 58):
Good call on playing Schneider for Vancouver - Luongo surely has to be back up goalie until he leaves now...

Luongo won't be leaving anytime soon, but Schneider might be going to Columbus. Lu's contract pays him $7M per, so a deal would have to be worked out such that the Canucks ate part of it -- like half at least.



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User currently offlineGrahamHill From France, joined Mar 2007, 2850 posts, RR: 2
Reply 60, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 2219 times:

Quoting YVRLTN (Reply 58):
Good call on playing Schneider for Vancouver

Good call on calling back Daniel Sedin too!



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User currently offlinePSA53 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3072 posts, RR: 4
Reply 61, posted (2 years 6 months 1 week 16 hours ago) and read 2198 times:

Quoting connies4ever (Reply 55):
Quoting PSA53 (Reply 54):
A major upset in the making? Kings go at it in 1/2 hr.Kings need to go all the way but I doubt it.Will see.

Yeah, I think so. Jonathan Quick is making Vancouver's scorers look ordinary. Whovever has the hot goalie wins

Schneider was last night.If the Kings would have scored the penalty shot I believe they would have won the game.But it seem to have caused a big let down.Oh.well.Next game.



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User currently offlinePHX787 From Japan, joined Mar 2012, 7757 posts, RR: 18
Reply 62, posted (2 years 6 months 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 2149 times:

Aaaaaaaand the Coyotes-Black Hawks series is 4-4....when it comes to overtimes. Mike Smith as usual kicking certain ass.


Wonder who will win. IMO Coyotes got this. Running on a 2-game streak and will be at home next 2 games. All they need is one more win.



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User currently offlineGuitrThree From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 2054 posts, RR: 8
Reply 63, posted (2 years 6 months 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 2138 times:

Wow.. No Redwings fans here tonight? Wonder why? Let's go Preds..... First to move on. Pecks comes through again. Rads and Leggy finally start showing what they can do.

Other teams look out. Preds get the 747 wingspan of Hal Gill back and its scary how far this team can go.

Great night here in Nashville.



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User currently offlineipodguy7 From United States of America, joined Aug 2008, 366 posts, RR: 0
Reply 64, posted (2 years 6 months 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 2134 times:

How bout them Preds!!!! Who said hockey doesn't belong in the south!? Bring on the yotes!
Oh and how about Pekka Rinne!? Best goal tender in the league in my opinion.



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User currently offlineconnies4ever From Canada, joined Feb 2006, 4066 posts, RR: 13
Reply 65, posted (2 years 6 months 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 2122 times:

Quoting GuitrThree (Reply 63):
Wow.. No Redwings fans here tonight? Wonder why? Let's go Preds..... First to move on. Pecks comes through again. Rads and Leggy finally start showing what they can do.

I still think the Radulov decision stinks. Got around the waiver issue in a somewhat dodgy manner. Guy can play, though.

That said, before the playoffs began, I had pegged LA, Nashville, and Florida as teams to watch, Nashville in particular. They play a solid goalie-out defensive system and have wisely built through the draft and have largely stuck with 'project' players.



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User currently offline747srule From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 429 posts, RR: 0
Reply 66, posted (2 years 6 months 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 2106 times:

My beloved Red Wings start their golf season on Monday.Bummer!


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User currently offlineconnies4ever From Canada, joined Feb 2006, 4066 posts, RR: 13
Reply 67, posted (2 years 6 months 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 2089 times:

TORRES WATCH: 25 (twenty-five) games. That's a big bite out of the old pay cheque. Can't say I feel sorry for him. In the last 13 months 3 suspensions and a fine.Apparently the man can't help himself.


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User currently offlinePHX787 From Japan, joined Mar 2012, 7757 posts, RR: 18
Reply 68, posted (2 years 6 months 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 2072 times:

Quoting connies4ever (Reply 67):
TORRES WATCH: 25 (twenty-five) games. That's a big bite out of the old pay cheque. Can't say I feel sorry for him. In the last 13 months 3 suspensions and a fine.Apparently the man can't help himself.

Jesus H. Christ -_- We're gonna be feeling that here in PHX.

All we need is a win and some re-organization time :/



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User currently offlineWestJet747 From Canada, joined Aug 2011, 1875 posts, RR: 10
Reply 69, posted (2 years 6 months 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 2069 times:

Quoting GuitrThree (Reply 63):
Wow.. No Redwings fans here tonight? Wonder why? Let's go Preds..... First to move on. Pecks comes through again. Rads and Leggy finally start showing what they can do.

I'm not surprised. The Preds have been really great this year (at least compared to years passed). They will probably be the team I cheer for in the West until the finals. Now I just need Weber to get a little more production so I can get up in my work's fantasy pool!

Quoting ipodguy7 (Reply 64):
Who said hockey doesn't belong in the south!?

Probably all the Canadians and Europeans that play for those southern teams.  
Quoting connies4ever (Reply 67):
TORRES WATCH: 25 (twenty-five) games. That's a big bite out of the old pay cheque. Can't say I feel sorry for him. In the last 13 months 3 suspensions and a fine.Apparently the man can't help himself.

Ouch! Obviously the punishment is this severe because the guy is a repeat-repeat-repeat offender (enough repeats?). The hit itself wasn't even close to a 25-gamer, but I guess it was the straw that broke the camel's back.

A friend of mine is a family friend of Torres. Apparently the guy is a real piece of work. My friend tends to describe him with the word "asshole" every time he speaks of him. Maybe this extra-long break will give him a shake.

Quoting PHX787 (Reply 68):
All we need is a win and some re-organization time

Like re-organizing in Quebec City?   



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User currently offlinePHX787 From Japan, joined Mar 2012, 7757 posts, RR: 18
Reply 70, posted (2 years 6 months 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 2065 times:

Quoting WestJet747 (Reply 69):
Like re-organizing in Quebec City?

After the Habs year this year, you bet!



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User currently offlineconnies4ever From Canada, joined Feb 2006, 4066 posts, RR: 13
Reply 71, posted (2 years 6 months 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 2057 times:

Quoting PHX787 (Reply 68):
All we need is a win and some re-organization time :/

The Coyotes in Phoenix are 'dead man walking'. The NHL does not want to continue to own the team, Glendale itself is more or less bust, so can't continue to fork over $25M/year as a subsidy. Quebec City is most likely, but Seattle, Kansas City, and Houston, IMHO are not out of the picture. Milwaukee might be viable if it had a better venue. Bradley Centre is a) a little too small, and b) not sufficient amenities for the NHL's liking.

Quoting PHX787 (Reply 68):
Jesus H. Christ -_- We're gonna be feeling that here in PHX.
Quoting WestJet747 (Reply 69):
Ouch! Obviously the punishment is this severe because the guy is a repeat-repeat-repeat offender (enough repeats?). The hit itself wasn't even close to a 25-gamer, but I guess it was the straw that broke the camel's back.

3 suspensions and a fine for head shots in the past 13 months, plus 5 other trips to the principals office that didn't garner much media attention. The guy is a head case. Roid rage maybe ? Justified, I think.



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User currently offlineltbewr From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 13140 posts, RR: 15
Reply 72, posted (2 years 6 months 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 2051 times:

Quoting connies4ever (Reply 71):
Quoting PHX787 (Reply 68):Jesus H. Christ -_- We're gonna be feeling that here in PHX.Quoting WestJet747 (Reply 69):Ouch! Obviously the punishment is this severe because the guy is a repeat-repeat-repeat offender (enough repeats?). The hit itself wasn't even close to a 25-gamer, but I guess it was the straw that broke the camel's back.3 suspensions and a fine for head shots in the past 13 months, plus 5 other trips to the principals office that didn't garner much media attention. The guy is a head case. Roid rage maybe ? Justified, I think.

Shanahan had no other choice especially with the NHL mandated pressure as to a 'headhunters' like this guy causing major brain trauma and the league at risk for lawsuits by former and current players. Wasn't there a long suspension given a few years ago for another headslammer?

The Devils look like they are in trouble and facing an early out of the playoffs. Again. Ditto for the Rangers. I was hopeing for at least a Rangers - Vancover rematch as in 1994 but looks like it ain't happening.


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Reply 73, posted (2 years 6 months 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 2012 times:

Quoting ltbewr (Reply 72):
The Devils look like they are in trouble and facing an early out of the playoffs. Again. Ditto for the Rangers. I was hopeing for at least a Rangers - Vancover rematch as in 1994 but looks like it ain't happening.

I thought NJ would trounce Florida in five, but clearly that hasn't happened. For the Rangers, their present for winning the East is to play one of a very small number of teams that has given them trouble all year. We'll see how the Devils and Rangers respond.

Meanwhile, how about Holtby and the Caps? Once again, San Jose has another playoff bust.

Quoting connies4ever (Reply 71):
3 suspensions and a fine for head shots in the past 13 months, plus 5 other trips to the principals office that didn't garner much media attention.

With Torres' lengthy history of the exact same hit, he deserves every one of those 25 games. After watching the punishment video where Shanahan really comes down hard on Torres, I'm actually surprised Torres didn't get even more. The message is that Torres needs to change his game. Now.



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User currently offlineconnies4ever From Canada, joined Feb 2006, 4066 posts, RR: 13
Reply 74, posted (2 years 6 months 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 1986 times:

Pitt out now too, two years in a row in the first round. Changes coming, I would think. I think a little more back end talent might help. Interesting that in the game today, five seconds in Giroux destroyed Crosby with a reasonably clean hit. Crosby was simply not in the game after that. Hopefully does not cause return of the concussion symptoms. Having had four from hockey I can reassure everyone that it is not a pleasant thing: nausea, dizziness, headaches, adverse response to light and noise, poor sleep. The whole nine yards.


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User currently offlineGrahamHill From France, joined Mar 2007, 2850 posts, RR: 2
Reply 75, posted (2 years 6 months 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 1951 times:

Quoting connies4ever (Reply 74):
Pitt out now too

And the Canucks as well. When they went in OT, I had the weird feeling they would lose the game.

Will Alain Vigneault survive this early elimination?



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User currently offlineconnies4ever From Canada, joined Feb 2006, 4066 posts, RR: 13
Reply 76, posted (2 years 6 months 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 1922 times:

Quoting GrahamHill (Reply 75):
Quoting connies4ever (Reply 74):
Pitt out now too

And the Canucks as well. When they went in OT, I had the weird feeling they would lose the game.

Will Alain Vigneault survive this early elimination?

Many things for the Aquilini family (principals in the ownership group) to consider:

- do they keep Mike Gillis as GM ? (Gillis as a player agent was the one who negotiated Luongo's contract. Isn't that a conflict of interest?)
- do they keep Vigneault ? (who would likely be snapped up by Montreal if they fire him quickly)
- Luongo: trade or not ? Might have to eat part of his huge salary to move him if he agrees to a move
- Schneider: an RFA as of July 1. Rumours are Columbus interested.
- what are the draft priorities ? Forward, defense, another goaltender ?
- this is an aging team already, Sedins 32 this year, for example. Malhotra getting up there also.

Personally, and I'm not a Canucks fan necessarily, losing Christian Erhoff to free agency hurt them more than what was thought originally. But there are only so many dollars. So I think finding a D-man that can start is important, because really there is only Bieksa and Edler as stud defensemen. Hamhuis has his moments but was the goat last night. The rest are place fillers.

I am sure the media machine in Vancouver is already going into maximum warp.



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User currently offlineGrahamHill From France, joined Mar 2007, 2850 posts, RR: 2
Reply 77, posted (2 years 6 months 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 1917 times:

Quoting connies4ever (Reply 76):
Many things for the Aquilini family (principals in the ownership group) to consider:

No small decisions to make here.

Quoting connies4ever (Reply 76):
(who would likely be snapped up by Montreal if they fire him quickly)

Montreal need first a GM!  

Any news about this, by the way?



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User currently offlineconnies4ever From Canada, joined Feb 2006, 4066 posts, RR: 13
Reply 78, posted (2 years 6 months 4 days ago) and read 1907 times:

Quoting GrahamHill (Reply 77):
Montreal need first a GM!

Any news about this, by the way?

No doubt a GM (and a decent one in such a market) is Job #1.
But I think if Vigneault were available the Molson family would make it clear what their preference was.



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User currently offlineWestJet747 From Canada, joined Aug 2011, 1875 posts, RR: 10
Reply 79, posted (2 years 6 months 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 1868 times:

Quoting connies4ever (Reply 76):
- do they keep Vigneault ? (who would likely be snapped up by Montreal if they fire him quickly)

You do know that Vigneault has previously coached the Montreal Canadiens and was fired midway through the season, right?

Quoting GrahamHill (Reply 77):
Montreal need first a GM!  

Any news about this, by the way?

I haven't heard anything about the GM position (frankly, anything is better than the last one), but I hear "Patrick Roy" and "head coach" in the same sentence just about everyday these days.



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User currently offlineconnies4ever From Canada, joined Feb 2006, 4066 posts, RR: 13
Reply 80, posted (2 years 6 months 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 1865 times:

Quoting WestJet747 (Reply 79):
You do know that Vigneault has previously coached the Montreal Canadiens and was fired midway through the season, right?

I do but with a different GM you never know. Not sure Patrick Roy is ready for the pressure cooker that is Montreal. Coaching a junior team is a lot different.



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User currently offlineYVRLTN From Canada, joined Oct 2006, 2493 posts, RR: 0
Reply 81, posted (2 years 6 months 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 1856 times:

Earliest ever a Presidents Trophy winner has been eliminated - piss poor stuff Canucks, lets face it, if you cant beat LA, how can you think about getting past St Louis, Nashville, Philly or Boston?? End the pain already...

Quoting connies4ever (Reply 76):
- do they keep Mike Gillis as GM ? (Gillis as a player agent was the one who negotiated Luongo's contract. Isn't that a conflict of interest?)

IMO yes, but you have to question his recent signings - they have not fitted into the team (Booth, Pahlsson, Kassian) and it seems were acquired with little input from AV, as he has not really tried to make them work and what MG tried to inject into the team backfired and disrupted what they did have going.

Quoting connies4ever (Reply 76):
- do they keep Vigneault ? (who would likely be snapped up by Montreal if they fire him quickly)

I personally like AV, but 6 years, always the time to move on and you have to question his tactics & pairings in the playoffs. Booth with the sisters clearly was not working, so why persevere? Daniel was injured for the last few weeks of the regular season and they put together a great winning streak without him to win the Presidents Trophy. But how many of the successful line pairings in those victories did AV use in games 1-3 against LA???? It seems they thought 22 would be back to bang in the goals and they were totally unprepared that he wasnt. Yes, you can blame the players, particularly guys like Edler, Raymond, Kesler, Higgins & Lapierre who fizzled out like a match in a hurricane, but AV has to take the most blame IMO. You cant bank on 1-0 games in the post season and you cant go with this whole "patience" philosophy, particularly when guys are clearly not comfortable playing in the pairings he was putting out.

Quoting connies4ever (Reply 76):
- Luongo: trade or not ? Might have to eat part of his huge salary to move him if he agrees to a move

He has clearly lost the support of the organization & the fans, its an untenable postion for him. Shame, as he is still better than most goalies in the NHL. It also cant be denied the team, particularly Edler, seem more confident with Schneids in net. I dont think they can/will ask him to leave, but if Lu wants to leave he can as long as the money side is sorted - rumor is the Leafs are interested, so no money issues there.

Quoting connies4ever (Reply 76):
- Schneider: an RFA as of July 1. Rumours are Columbus interested.

Really depends on Luongo. Very tough call, cash in or retain who is clearly your #1. I think all the fans want the latter, I think it is because he is so good which partially makes Lu look "bad".

Quoting connies4ever (Reply 76):
- what are the draft priorities ? Forward, defense, another goaltender ?

Even mix, Salo is probably going to retire. And they got the raw end of the Buffalo deal & I cant see Booth sticking around. Who knows what is up with the second line.

Quoting connies4ever (Reply 76):
- this is an aging team already, Sedins 32 this year, for example. Malhotra getting up there also.

True, but the sisters have another 2-3 seasons - would Hodgson have made the difference this year? I doubt it, buts thats the sort of player they need coming through.

Quoting connies4ever (Reply 76):
losing Christian Erhoff to free agency hurt them more than what was thought originally

IMO this was a biggy, they essentially replaced him with Tanev. I really like the kid, he is mature beyond his years - after getting thrown in the deep end last year - but he gets thrown about too easy and can not add to the offense, Ehrhoff weighed in with goals.

Quoting connies4ever (Reply 76):
So I think finding a D-man that can start is important, because really there is only Bieksa and Edler as stud defensemen. Hamhuis has his moments but was the goat last night. The rest are place fillers.

Hamhuis is our best d-man IMO. Hang him out to dry if you want, but he was better than Edler or Bieksa who were both quite shocking, despite both scoring. I would say that while also at fault yesterday, Ballard made a worthwhile contribution and for the money being paid, Im disappointed AV wont put more faith in him. A big name d-man is a must.

Quoting connies4ever (Reply 76):
I am sure the media machine in Vancouver is already going into maximum warp.

Its in overdrive, but for the most part no one seems to be surprised after game 1 and really what has come to light is so much wrong with the team - which is so surprising after two such phenomenal seasons.

Go Sens Go I guess... 



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User currently offlineEA CO AS From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 13649 posts, RR: 62
Reply 82, posted (2 years 6 months 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 1854 times:
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DOGS RULE!



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User currently offlinePHX787 From Japan, joined Mar 2012, 7757 posts, RR: 18
Reply 83, posted (2 years 6 months 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 1853 times:

GUESS WHO JUST DESTROYED THE BLACK HAWKS FINALLY!!!!!!!!!    
Go Yotes!!!



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User currently offlineconnies4ever From Canada, joined Feb 2006, 4066 posts, RR: 13
Reply 84, posted (2 years 6 months 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 1837 times:

Quoting YVRLTN (Reply 81):
IMO yes, but you have to question his recent signings -

Gillis signing Lu to that insane contract and then in essence be coming his boss is rather unsavoury, to say the least. My take is he has to go.

Quoting YVRLTN (Reply 81):
I personally like AV, but 6 years, always the time to move on and you have to question his tactics & pairings in the playoffs. Booth with the sisters clearly was not working, so why persevere?

Booth wasn't AV's idea, but he had to put him somewhere. Anyone in the press box with better creds. Booth on the market this summer or paid out I'd say.

Quoting YVRLTN (Reply 81):
He has clearly lost the support of the organization & the fans, its an untenable postion for him.

No doubt about it. He is smart enough to see the handwriting on the wall, and he is competitive enough to want to play somewhere (as #1) so I think he'll waive the no-trade. Maybe Columbus will take him (if 'Nucks eat part of the contract) instead of going after Schneids. BTW, who would b/u Schneids ?

Quoting EA CO AS (Reply 82):
DOGS RULE!
Quoting PHX787 (Reply 83):
GUESS WHO JUST DESTROYED THE BLACK HAWKS FINALLY!!!!!!!!!
Go Yotes!!!

Enjoy them while you have them.



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User currently offlineblink182 From Azerbaijan, joined Oct 1999, 5482 posts, RR: 15
Reply 85, posted (2 years 6 months 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 1782 times:

Quoting YVRLTN (Reply 81):
He has clearly lost the support of the organization & the fans, its an untenable postion for him. Shame, as he is still better than most goalies in the NHL. It also cant be denied the team, particularly Edler, seem more confident with Schneids in net. I dont think they can/will ask him to leave, but if Lu wants to leave he can as long as the money side is sorted - rumor is the Leafs are interested, so no money issues there.

Exactly, but what I find sad is that Luongo almost appears to be a pariah for everything that went wrong these playoffs. Even AV admitted that his decision to start Schneider for game 4 was not due to Luongo's play. That said, eventually either Schneider or Luongo would have to go. I think its clear that Luongo, fairly or unfairly, will probably leave. I don't see the Canucks giving Schneider a new contract as big as Luongo's, and a Luongo departure will give the Canucks more cap space.



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User currently offlineGuitrThree From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 2054 posts, RR: 8
Reply 86, posted (2 years 6 months 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 1780 times:

Quoting EA CO AS (Reply 82):
DOGS RULE!
Quoting PHX787 (Reply 83):
Go Yotes!!!

My Cats are going to beat up your Dogs...

Going to be a long, defensive 1-nothing, 2-1, 3-2 series with a couple of overtimes.

Anyone who wants to see great goal tending, watch this series.

Go Preds!



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User currently offlineipodguy7 From United States of America, joined Aug 2008, 366 posts, RR: 0
Reply 87, posted (2 years 6 months 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 1775 times:

Quoting GuitrThree (Reply 86):
My Cats are going to beat up your Dogs...

Going to be a long, defensive 1-nothing, 2-1, 3-2 series with a couple of overtimes.

Anyone who wants to see great goal tending, watch this series.

Go Preds!

I agree with you as far as the goaltending, but I see the Preds easily taking it due to the extreme depth we have when it comes to scoring, and the whole home ice thing means absolutely nothing as the away team in all 4 regular season PHX/BNA match ups won. I am really hoping we get Hal Gill back in the lineup and soon, he's absence has definitely ben felt. Either way, looking forward to watching some fangtastic hockey with 17,113 of the loudest fans in the NHL (115dB last game) at Bridgestone. Let's Go Preds!
My West predictions:
Preds in 5
LA in 6

I've got Nashville coming out of the west, and Philly out of the East, with Nashville winning in 6

P.S. Once Phoenix's season is over, where's the favorite for relocation? I've heard YQB but then again they don't have a big enough arena currently do they? Could we see the Quebec Nordiques Round 2?

[Edited 2012-04-24 20:46:56]


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User currently offlineBOStonsox From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 1990 posts, RR: 0
Reply 88, posted (2 years 6 months 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 1767 times:

Hopefully tomorrow (or tonight, since it is now technically Wednesday) the Bruins will win Game 7. If Ottawa beats the Rangers, that would be ideal for us since it means we would play a team we have had no problems beating before. I want a repeat Stanley Cup!


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User currently offlinePHX787 From Japan, joined Mar 2012, 7757 posts, RR: 18
Reply 89, posted (2 years 6 months 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 1759 times:

Quoting ipodguy7 (Reply 87):
P.S. Once Phoenix's season is over, where's the favorite for relocation? I've heard YQB but then again they don't have a big enough arena currently do they? Could we see the Quebec Nordiques Round 2?

Relocation? Probably to a little place called JOBING.COM ARENA 
Quoting GuitrThree (Reply 86):
Anyone who wants to see great goal tending, watch this series.

Although I'm a yotes fan, I hope to see some good goaltending from Rinne....because his coach was my coach for this goaltenders camp I did a few years ago....and I hope I learned proper goaltending skills :p

Should be a good series. Smitty vs Pekka.



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User currently offlineconnies4ever From Canada, joined Feb 2006, 4066 posts, RR: 13
Reply 90, posted (2 years 6 months 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 1757 times:

Quoting ipodguy7 (Reply 87):
P.S. Once Phoenix's season is over, where's the favorite for relocation? I've heard YQB but then again they don't have a big enough arena currently do they? Could we see the Quebec Nordiques Round 2?
Quoting PHX787 (Reply 89):
Relocation? Probably to a little place called JOBING.COM ARENA

Quebec has Le Colisee which seats just over 15,000. I believe it is getting a touch up over the summer in case Phoenix are moved to Quebec -- basically a splash of paint, some minor improvements to amenities, etc. But it was built in 1949 and shows it. A new facility, with all the bells and whistles, is planned and I believe it is to open in 2015. A public/private funding arrangement (province/city/Quebecor Inc.) is to underpin the whole thing.

Seattle not out of the picture, but the arena situation there (Key) is not particularly attractive even if for only 2 years.

Re JOBING.COM ARENA - gonna look awfully forlorn with no tenant. Maybe an American League team can be placed there. Let's call them the RoadRunners, as in days past.



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User currently offlineGrahamHill From France, joined Mar 2007, 2850 posts, RR: 2
Reply 91, posted (2 years 6 months 2 days ago) and read 1743 times:

Quoting connies4ever (Reply 80):
Not sure Patrick Roy is ready for the pressure cooker that is Montreal. Coaching a junior team is a lot different.

If I can allow myself to take an example from football, the same was said about Pep Guardiola when he took over FC Barcelona. His only experience as a coach was just 1 year with the youngsters. When he's been appointed coach of the first team, everybody said it would be suicide because of his lack of experience and knowledge in the field. But he succeeded straight away and won 13 trophies out of 16 possible in 3 years!

I am sure Roy has the shoulders to coach a team in the NHL. He just needs to have his chance to prove it (and what the Habs have to lose? They sure cannot do a crappier season than this one!).

Quoting ipodguy7 (Reply 87):
Could we see the Quebec Nordiques Round 2?

As a Habs fan, I hope so. This will bring back some rivalry in Quebec and that will be good to wake up Montreal, who have been asleep for the past 15 years...



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User currently offlineconnies4ever From Canada, joined Feb 2006, 4066 posts, RR: 13
Reply 92, posted (2 years 6 months 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 1734 times:

Quoting GrahamHill (Reply 91):
If I can allow myself to take an example from football, the same was said about Pep Guardiola when he took over FC Barcelona. His only experience as a coach was just 1 year with the youngsters. When he's been appointed coach of the first team, everybody said it would be suicide because of his lack of experience and knowledge in the field. But he succeeded straight away and won 13 trophies out of 16 possible in 3 years!

Fair enough, good example. He must be crying in his cerveza today, though, after last night's result.

Quoting GrahamHill (Reply 91):
I am sure Roy has the shoulders to coach a team in the NHL. He just needs to have his chance to prove it (and what the Habs have to lose? They sure cannot do a crappier season than this one!).

No doubt the Habs had a crappy season. Haven't been last since before WW2.



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User currently offlineEA CO AS From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 13649 posts, RR: 62
Reply 93, posted (2 years 6 months 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 1730 times:
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Quoting ipodguy7 (Reply 87):
Once Phoenix's season is over, where's the favorite for relocation?

Actually, the word is two potential buyers want to relocate back to US Airways Center, which has promised renovations to the sightlines to improve the hockey experience. The Coyotes really need to be back in Downtown Phoenix, as Jobing.com is too far out on the west side of town to draw most on-the-fence fans from coming to a game.

Sorry trolls, the Coyotes aren't leaving Arizona.



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User currently offlinePHX787 From Japan, joined Mar 2012, 7757 posts, RR: 18
Reply 94, posted (2 years 6 months 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 1718 times:

Quoting EA CO AS (Reply 93):
Sorry trolls, the Coyotes aren't leaving Arizona.

Someone told me that the Yotes have the lease on jobing.com for a while?



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User currently offlineWestJet747 From Canada, joined Aug 2011, 1875 posts, RR: 10
Reply 95, posted (2 years 6 months 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 1715 times:

Quoting GuitrThree (Reply 86):
My Cats are going to beat up your Dogs...
Quoting GuitrThree (Reply 86):
Go Preds!

Oh geez, at first I thought you were possibly making a reference to Florida making it to the finals. I was about to flame the hell out of you!   

Quoting connies4ever (Reply 90):
A new facility, with all the bells and whistles, is planned and I believe it is to open in 2015. A public/private funding arrangement (province/city/Quebecor Inc.) is to underpin the whole thing.

Not without some scandal though! Not unknown in that province of course.

Quoting connies4ever (Reply 90):
Seattle not out of the picture

Potential market conflict with Vancouver? I've also never seen the northwest to be particularly hockey-crazy. I know they've had some pretty successful WHL teams though.

Quoting GrahamHill (Reply 91):
As a Habs fan, I hope so. This will bring back some rivalry in Quebec and that will be good to wake up Montreal, who have been asleep for the past 15 years...

        

Quoting EA CO AS (Reply 93):
Sorry trolls, the Coyotes aren't leaving Arizona


The only troll is Gary Bettman, because he was literally the ONLY thing in the way of Balsillie moving that team.



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User currently offlineconnies4ever From Canada, joined Feb 2006, 4066 posts, RR: 13
Reply 96, posted (2 years 6 months 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 1707 times:

Quoting WestJet747 (Reply 95):
Potential market conflict with Vancouver?

No. On that topic, b.t.w., Buttman recently stated that a 2nd team in Toronto would NOT have to pay to enter the Leafs 'territory'. The vote on the new arena in Markham is tomorrow and I will track that closely. I think it's 50/50 right now that the Islanders will move to Toronto in 2015.



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User currently offlineBOStonsox From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 1990 posts, RR: 0
Reply 97, posted (2 years 6 months 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 1687 times:

Well, that was a bad way for us to go out. We still have the Celtics though.


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User currently offlineconnies4ever From Canada, joined Feb 2006, 4066 posts, RR: 13
Reply 98, posted (2 years 6 months 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 1686 times:

Quoting BOStonsox (Reply 97):
Well, that was a bad way for us to go out. We still have the Celtics though.

Seemed to these eyes that the Bruins lacked drive throughout most of the series. Also, some of their scorers didn't show up (Lucic, for one, also Marchand). I know Bergeron was hurt at least for the latter part of the series (shoulder?). Not having Horton didn't help either. That said, where was the bench strength ?

For the Caps, it was the foot soldiers and Holtby that won this one - kind of like the Kings over the Canucks. Congrats to the Capitals. Finally maybe the "choke" label is gone.



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User currently offlineconnies4ever From Canada, joined Feb 2006, 4066 posts, RR: 13
Reply 99, posted (2 years 5 months 4 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 1617 times:

Couple of interesting developments this week in the NHL:

a) open forum in Winnipeg with the GM, Kevin Cheveldayoff, and the fans. In the forum he indicated that the Jets 'significantly' exceeded budgeted revenues, will be in the upper half of teams for revenue, and therefore will be paying INTO the equalization fund, not drawing from it. So much for the naysayers regarding Winnipeg's ability to support an NHL franchise. It may also interest some that, despite all the $$$ going to True North and the Jets, the Blue Bombers football team look like setting another season ticket record this year.

b) yesterday (Apr 26) Markham city council voted 10-2 to approve funding proposal for a new 20,000 seat arena. To be complete in time for 2015 World Junior Hockey Tournament. But I think this is step 1 of a plan to move the Islanders to Toronto. Interesting times in Toronto.



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User currently offlineGuitrThree From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 2054 posts, RR: 8
Reply 100, posted (2 years 5 months 4 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 1570 times:

Ugggh.
Last nights game was ugly. Preds full of rust the first half of the game then when they finally turned it on Smitty shut the door. Wow is he good. Maybe if the Preds play more than a half of a game they will have the series. Funny thing is that Gill looked the most ready of all the Preds and he hasn't played since early April.

Still not worried, yet.

I do have a new found respect for the Coyote's goalie. Good Job. No, check that, great job.

Good job by the ref's. No blown calls that I can recall. But seriously, what the deal with the linesmen? Every freakin' face off they are swatting someone out, and it goes both ways. It's almost getting funny, but it's not. Drop the puck and move on already..... I've noticed, while the refs drop the puck a lot less, there is almost none of this nonsense when they do it.
Towards the end of the game both teams came to the face off with TWO centers, because they knew this was going to happen. I think this should be a new stat, % of faceoffs where a center has been removed.



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User currently offlinePHX787 From Japan, joined Mar 2012, 7757 posts, RR: 18
Reply 101, posted (2 years 5 months 4 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 1565 times:

Quoting GuitrThree (Reply 100):
I do have a new found respect for the Coyote's goalie. Good Job. No, check that, great job.

You now know why those of us here in PHX are all pumped up. at the beginning of the season, we all had huge doubts about Smitty. Now we're 3 games from moving on further in the playoffs.

Now Pekka is a goalie, I'll give him that. I was a member of Mitch Korn's goalie camp a few years back, and I can clearly see that Pekka is an amazing goalie based on the training I received from Coach Mitch (the goalie coach for the preds.)

This will be an interesting series.



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User currently offlineEA CO AS From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 13649 posts, RR: 62
Reply 102, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 1530 times:
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Quoting PHX787 (Reply 101):
Now we're 3 games from moving on further in the playoffs.

Two.  



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User currently offlineconnies4ever From Canada, joined Feb 2006, 4066 posts, RR: 13
Reply 103, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 1518 times:

Quoting GuitrThree (Reply 100):
Good job by the ref's. No blown calls that I can recall. But seriously, what the deal with the linesmen? Every freakin' face off they are swatting someone out, and it goes both ways. It's almost getting funny, but it's not. Drop the puck and move on already

Absolutely. I can't recall seeing more dismissals from the face-off than this year. Not sure the reason but it is irritating, I agree, drop the frickin' puck ! I know from my intermediate hockey days there was nothing worse than a linesman who dithered on the drop. And, of course, if you barked at him, you risked a misconduct penalty.

It does tug at the heart to see the Yotes doing so well. I still have a heart-to-heart connection with them. Was an original Jets season ticket holder (1972) and shareholder when they went public (1975). Have been to a couple of Coyotes games in the initial period after moving, but now I think, for better or for worse, I will stick with Jets 2.0.



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User currently offlinePHX787 From Japan, joined Mar 2012, 7757 posts, RR: 18
Reply 104, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 1478 times:

Quoting EA CO AS (Reply 102):
Two.

Hell yeah! what a game. Best they've played the entire playoffs!



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User currently offlineNASCARAirforce From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 3184 posts, RR: 4
Reply 105, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 1479 times:

Kinda lost interest since the Wings went out in 5. I will start paying attention again though in the Conference finals and of course will watch the Cup finals as I always do

User currently offlineGrahamHill From France, joined Mar 2007, 2850 posts, RR: 2
Reply 106, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 1467 times:

The Kings now lead the series 2-0. I don't know what happened to St-Louis in the first period (I have not watched the game), but conceding 4 goals, of which two in just over a minute, is quite worrysome on home ice and at this stage of the season.


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User currently offlineGrahamHill From France, joined Mar 2007, 2850 posts, RR: 2
Reply 107, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 1420 times:

Marc Bergevin is the new GM of Montreal:

http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=630394&navid=DL|NHL|home



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User currently offlineWestJet747 From Canada, joined Aug 2011, 1875 posts, RR: 10
Reply 108, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 1413 times:

Quoting GrahamHill (Reply 107):
Marc Bergevin is the new GM of Montreal:

Note the blatant hiring of a Montrealer. All 3 candidates were Montreal natives. It drives me absilutely up the wall that the Molsons go out of their way to hire based on geography and language as opposed to who is the best fit for the team. I guarantee you that they didn't even look outside of Quebec, which will be no different than what they will do for the HC position.   



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User currently offlineGrahamHill From France, joined Mar 2007, 2850 posts, RR: 2
Reply 109, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 1366 times:

Quoting WestJet747 (Reply 108):

Do you imply that Quebecers are too dumb to do the job? If you have talent inside Quebec, why looking somewhere else?

Who would have been your ideal candidate, then?



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User currently offlineWestJet747 From Canada, joined Aug 2011, 1875 posts, RR: 10
Reply 110, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 1359 times:

How about Pekka Rinne last night eh?! Some masterful goaltending!

Quoting GrahamHill (Reply 109):
Do you imply that Quebecers are too dumb to do the job?

I'm a Quebecer, so I sure hope not!  
Quoting GrahamHill (Reply 109):
If you have talent inside Quebec, why looking somewhere else?

But there is plenty more talent outside of Quebec. There is a trend in Montreal to not look elsewhere.

I look at it this way: My company is located in Southern Ontario, does that mean my company should only consider candidates from Southern Ontario, even if some of the best business schools are here?

My answer: No. Common business sense would dictate that recruitment has no borders. The Habs should at least look at some of the great coaches that are available who aren't bilingual Quebecois.

Quoting GrahamHill (Reply 109):
Who would have been your ideal candidate, then?

Scotty Bowman obviously!...joking aside, I wouldn't have minded if Marc Crawford were in the running. I was always a big fan of his. I also wouldn't be opposed to seeing Guy Carbonneau brought back, but for all I know he was actually considered and had turned down the offer given his current position.



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User currently offlineGrahamHill From France, joined Mar 2007, 2850 posts, RR: 2
Reply 111, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 1336 times:

Will the Kings sweep the 2nd best team in the West?  Wow!
Quoting WestJet747 (Reply 110):
Common business sense would dictate that recruitment has no borders

As a Frenchman working in Montreal (and who worked 7 years in Ireland before that), I could not agree more 
Quoting WestJet747 (Reply 110):
some of the great coaches that are available who aren't bilingual Quebecois

I'm not going into that debate.

Quoting WestJet747 (Reply 110):
Marc Crawford

There are rumours he is on the list for the coach position.



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User currently offlineGuitrThree From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 2054 posts, RR: 8
Reply 112, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 1300 times:

Congrats Coyote's! Looks like you won't have to travel far to play the Kings in the next round...

I'm throwing in the towel. Smitty just too good. Going to be a fantastic Western conference final series. Quick -vs- Smith.

I think every game goes 3 OT's!!



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User currently offlinePHX787 From Japan, joined Mar 2012, 7757 posts, RR: 18
Reply 113, posted (2 years 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 1276 times:

Quoting GuitrThree (Reply 112):
I'm throwing in the towel. Smitty just too good. Going to be a fantastic Western conference final series. Quick -vs- Smith.

One more game u know -_- lol

but I agree. Mike Smith is a force to be reckoned with. That guy learned something this year and I'm not sure what it is, but damn, it's helping us out quite a bit!



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Reply 114, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 1209 times:

Looks like the Coyotes fans may have something else to cheer for at tonight's game against Nashville. The NHL is scheduled to announce that they have struck a deal with an ownership group led by former Sharks CEO Greg Jamison to purchase the franchise and keep them in Glendale.

http://www.bizjournals.com/phoenix/m...announce-phoenix-coyotes-deal.html

Of course it's not a done deal, as seen with previous attempts by the NHL to sell the team falling apart primarily due to the failure of the potential new owners to strike a deal with the City Of Glendale regarding Jobing.com Arena. Hopefully this deal goes through so that the emotional roller coaster Coyotes fans have been on for the last several years can stop (As a former Thrashers fans I can just imagine how rough is as been for those fans. We only had a short emotional roller coaster to deal with.). The team came very close to being sold and relocated back to Winnipeg after last season, as the City Of Glendale agreed to help cover some of the losses for the 2011-2012 season 10 minutes prior to the deadline set for an agreement. The NHL already had True North Sports & Entertainment lined up to buy the team had the deadline passed without an agreement. Once the agreement was made, the green light was given by the NHL for True North to start negotiations with Atlanta Spirit, LLC to purchase the Thrashers. I honestly thought that this was quite likely the Coyotes' last season in Arizona, as there had not been much going on in regards to a sale of the team.


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Reply 115, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 1200 times:

Quoting srbmod (Reply 114):
The NHL is scheduled to announce that they have struck a deal with an ownership group led by former Sharks CEO Greg Jamison to purchase the franchise and keep them in Glendale.

http://www.bizjournals.com/phoenix/m...announce-phoenix-coyotes-deal.html

Of course it's not a done deal, as seen with previous attempts by the NHL to sell the team falling apart primarily due to the failure of the potential new owners to strike a deal with the City Of Glendale regarding Jobing.com Arena.

I read an article in today's newspaper that said that the deal by Mr. Jamison is probably the only economical option by the NHL and the Yotes.

it's something to celebrate going into today's game  



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Reply 116, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 1196 times:

Quoting PHX787 (Reply 115):

There's quite a few jilted Thrashers fans that wished the NHL cared as much about keeping a team in Atlanta as they do about keeping a team in Phoenix (Many fans hoped that the Phoenix situation would be dealt with a lot quicker in the hopes that the NHL would then take over the Thrashers. The ownership in Atlanta had pretty much given up on their ownership of the club after hosting the All-Star Game in 2008, and ran the team as close to the salary floor as they could and even then, they were losing money since one of the partners was not obligated to contribute capital due to his lawsuit with the other owners.). The relocation of the Thrashers was the first time the NHL charged a relocation fee, which was doled out amongst the other NHL owners (although former Thrashers majority owner got a large chunk of that relocation fee, which honestly seemed a tiny bit unethical) essentially to reimburse some of the money the other NHL teams had injected in keeping the Coyotes afloat. The NHL should have gotten the Phoenix situation settled before even entertaining the idea of allowing a team to relocate, as the fans in Phoenix have been getting strung along for way too long and the uncertainty most definitely affected ticket sales and helped get the hopes up of some folks in Hamilton and Quebec City.

Side note, the Coyotes' former ECHL affiliate, the Las Vegas Wranglers are in the Kelly Cup Finals. Their current ECHL affiliate, the Gwinnett Gladiators, got eliminated in the first round.


User currently offlineWestJet747 From Canada, joined Aug 2011, 1875 posts, RR: 10
Reply 117, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 1186 times:

So as I'm leaving the office I find out that Claude Giroux has been suspended a game for head hit. Unfortunately I missed the game and didn't see it, so I rushed home to Youtube it. My first reaction was pretty mixed. Honestly, Zubrus needs to man up. I've seen harder hits in house league peewee hockey. There was no reason he needed to stay down that long and play it up, he wasn't even hurt! (he needs to take notes from the Kazakh player you got blown up yesterday by that French player, and still skated away) But regardless of severity, a hit to the head is a hit to the head, and I don't think there's any doubt that Giroux's shoulder made contact with Zubrus' head.

What is everyone's thoughts?

Quoting srbmod (Reply 114):
Looks like the Coyotes fans may have something else to cheer for at tonight's game against Nashville. The NHL is scheduled to announce that they have struck a deal with an ownership group led by former Sharks CEO Greg Jamison to purchase the franchise and keep them in Glendale.

There's probably going to be a lot of ticked off Quebecois tonight.

Quoting PHX787 (Reply 115):
I read an article in today's newspaper that said that the deal by Mr. Jamison is probably the only economical option by the NHL and the Yotes.

The only economical option is anyone but the NHL owning the team. I think Bettman went a little offside when it came to this whole ownership fiasco.



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User currently offlinePHX787 From Japan, joined Mar 2012, 7757 posts, RR: 18
Reply 118, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 1174 times:

Quoting WestJet747 (Reply 117):
Quoting srbmod (Reply 114):
Looks like the Coyotes fans may have something else to cheer for at tonight's game against Nashville. The NHL is scheduled to announce that they have struck a deal with an ownership group led by former Sharks CEO Greg Jamison to purchase the franchise and keep them in Glendale.

There's probably going to be a lot of ticked off Quebecois tonight.

they made the official announcement tonight at the game.

Oh, by the way: GO COYOTES!!!!!! LA IS GONNA BE TAKEN DOWNNNNNN!!!!!!      



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User currently offlineblink182 From Azerbaijan, joined Oct 1999, 5482 posts, RR: 15
Reply 119, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 1164 times:

LA vs. PHX for a trip to the Cup Finals. Six weeks ago who'da thunk it?

Meanwhile, we've got two game sixes to look forward to in the East. Thoughts on a '94 Eastern Conference Finals repeat match up?



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User currently offlineGrahamHill From France, joined Mar 2007, 2850 posts, RR: 2
Reply 120, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 1119 times:

Is this going to be a year for the underdogs? LA, Phoenix and now New Jersey!

And Bryzgalov, oh my oh my... What went through his mind in front of Clarkson? For those who missed: http://video.nhl.com/videocenter/console?catid=35&id=177024

[Edited 2012-05-08 19:27:15]


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User currently offlineconnies4ever From Canada, joined Feb 2006, 4066 posts, RR: 13
Reply 121, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 1100 times:

Quoting PHX787 (Reply 118):
Quoting WestJet747 (Reply 117):
Quoting srbmod (Reply 114):
Looks like the Coyotes fans may have something else to cheer for at tonight's game against Nashville. The NHL is scheduled to announce that they have struck a deal with an ownership group led by former Sharks CEO Greg Jamison to purchase the franchise and keep them in Glendale.

There's probably going to be a lot of ticked off Quebecois tonight.

Indeed. This has emerged rather late in the day, so I wonder how solid the group is. I think there's also some talk of moving back to US Airways arena ?? As long as the situation is resolved. So, yes, disappointed Quebecers, I don't think there is much chance of further expansion in the nearer term. But I guess Florida might be in play, and of course the Islanders.

Congrats to the Coyotes for getting to the Final Four. Lots of kudos to Mike Smith, he's is such a zone right now.



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User currently offlineconnies4ever From Canada, joined Feb 2006, 4066 posts, RR: 13
Reply 122, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 1091 times:

Interesting article on possible fate of the Coyotes, from today's Hockey News:

http://www.thehockeynews.com/article...e-will-regret-keeping-Coyotes.html



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User currently offlinePHX787 From Japan, joined Mar 2012, 7757 posts, RR: 18
Reply 123, posted (2 years 5 months 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 1081 times:

Quoting connies4ever (Reply 121):
Indeed. This has emerged rather late in the day, so I wonder how solid the group is. I think there's also some talk of moving back to US Airways arena ?? As long as the situation is resolved. So, yes, disappointed Quebecers, I don't think there is much chance of further expansion in the nearer term. But I guess Florida might be in play, and of course the Islanders.

The owner has been working extensively with the city of Glendale, so No, i don't think they're going back downtown.



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User currently offlineGuitrThree From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 2054 posts, RR: 8
Reply 124, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 938 times:

Quoting PHX787 (Reply 118):
Oh, by the way: GO COYOTES!!!!!! LA IS GONNA BE TAKEN DOWNNNNNN!!!!!!

I made the same prediction of the Preds taking down the Coyotes.. And you see where that got me!



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User currently offlinePHX787 From Japan, joined Mar 2012, 7757 posts, RR: 18
Reply 125, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 932 times:

Quoting GuitrThree (Reply 124):
Quoting PHX787 (Reply 118):
Oh, by the way: GO COYOTES!!!!!! LA IS GONNA BE TAKEN DOWNNNNNN!!!!!!

I made the same prediction of the Preds taking down the Coyotes.. And you see where that got me!

And now we're getting our asses handed to us by the Kings.

a number of things:
HORRIBLE officiating,
NOT taking shots on the net
HORRIBLE defense
Too much playing with the puck
Not enough clean aggression.



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User currently offlineEA CO AS From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 13649 posts, RR: 62
Reply 126, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 928 times:
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Quoting PHX787 (Reply 125):
a number of things:

Actually, it's just one basic thing; they're not creating enough traffic in front of the net. That's what gets you the goals you need, and they're just not doing it.



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User currently onlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21685 posts, RR: 55
Reply 127, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 933 times:

Rangers and Devils now tied at 1 after New Jersey wins Game 2 3-2. Pisses me off to no end that NBC Sports is not among the available channels at my hotel here - I'd go to a bar to watch, but it's Oklahoma and the Thunder are playing tonight, so....  

Might try and get tickets for a game at The Rock this weekend.

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User currently offlineconnies4ever From Canada, joined Feb 2006, 4066 posts, RR: 13
Reply 128, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 908 times:

Quoting PHX787 (Reply 125):
HORRIBLE officiating,

Pretty much been a constant throughout the playoffs. I have read that the new rules regarding headshots are distracting officials from the actual calls, particularly the linesmen w.r.t. offsides. There have been some really egregious mistakes in this area. I also note the huge number of players being ejected from the faceoff circle. I still don't know what's up with that.

Quoting PHX787 (Reply 125):
HORRIBLE defense

LA have a couple of power forwards who are hard to handle in front of Smith.

Quoting PHX787 (Reply 125):
Not enough clean aggression.

As a former player, Doan's hit was a hard one but I don't think it was a suspension, allthough the match penalty was warranted. Hanzel's was, though. It was only one game because I don't think he'd been reviewed before.

I couldn't believe the non-call on Smith when he slashed Brown (?) in Game 2, and Brownie got the diving penalty. Let me tell you, that kind of slash HURTS.

Quoting EA CO AS (Reply 126):
Actually, it's just one basic thing; they're not creating enough traffic in front of the net. That's what gets you the goals you need, and they're just not doing it.

Absolutely. The LA defense are swallowing them up or bleeding them off towards the corners. Tough to beat Quick from the side like that. Actually, just tough to beat Quick.

Right now, I like LA's chances to win the Cup. This will be five games, tops, while NY & NJ have a war of attrition. I wonder what the odds were at training camp ?



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User currently offlineWestJet747 From Canada, joined Aug 2011, 1875 posts, RR: 10
Reply 129, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 904 times:

Quoting PHX787 (Reply 125):
HORRIBLE officiating

It hasn't been the greatest, but it hasn't been exceptionally horrible. The officiating certainly hasn't been bad enough to blame Pheonix's problems on.

Quoting connies4ever (Reply 128):
As a former player, Doan's hit was a hard one but I don't think it was a suspension, allthough the match penalty was warranted. Hanzel's was, though.

   Shanahan got both these calls right. Hanzal's was without a doubt an unnecessary and intentional boarding, and 1 game sounds appropriate. The Doan hit, after watching a few replays, was definitely not worth any suspension. Lewis was a moron for turning his back at the last second, any hockey player knows that that is just asking for for some pain.



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User currently offlinePHX787 From Japan, joined Mar 2012, 7757 posts, RR: 18
Reply 130, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 882 times:

Quoting connies4ever (Reply 128):
I also note the huge number of players being ejected from the faceoff circle. I still don't know what's up with that.

One move and BAM they're out.

Quoting connies4ever (Reply 128):
As a former player, Doan's hit was a hard one but I don't think it was a suspension,

Wait?! How long is he out for?



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User currently offlineWestJet747 From Canada, joined Aug 2011, 1875 posts, RR: 10
Reply 131, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 880 times:

Quoting PHX787 (Reply 130):
Wait?! How long is he out for?

He's not out at all. He was ejected from that game but Shanny didn't suspend him.



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User currently offlinePHX787 From Japan, joined Mar 2012, 7757 posts, RR: 18
Reply 132, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 877 times:

Quoting WestJet747 (Reply 131):
He's not out at all. He was ejected from that game but Shanny didn't suspend him.

Oh thank god. However, I don't have any hopes for this series anymore. The Kings are just too hot, and Phoenix would need a miracle to win 4 of these.



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User currently offlineconnies4ever From Canada, joined Feb 2006, 4066 posts, RR: 13
Reply 133, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 874 times:

Quoting PHX787 (Reply 132):
Oh thank god. However, I don't have any hopes for this series anymore. The Kings are just too hot, and Phoenix would need a miracle to win 4 of these.

Yah, unfortunately for you as a fan. I must admit a bit of sadness myself (Jets 1.0). But I think the end of the road is now very close for the Yotes. A California Cup again. As a Canadian, oh, the horror! The horror!

On the optimistic side, perhaps Jets 2.0 will be the next Canuck team (no pun intended) to win the Cup....  



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User currently offlineYVRLTN From Canada, joined Oct 2006, 2493 posts, RR: 0
Reply 134, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 868 times:

Quoting connies4ever (Reply 128):
Right now, I like LA's chances to win the Cup

Thinking about it, in the past few seasons, have not at least three teams that knocked out the Canucks gone on to win the cup? Maybe a good omen for LA... on a personal note, I hope LA win it so we can say we were knocked out by the best team.

Who would have thought 6 weeks ago...



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User currently offlineus330 From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 3873 posts, RR: 14
Reply 135, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 864 times:

Quoting YVRLTN (Reply 134):
on a personal note, I hope LA win it so we can say we were knocked out by the best team.

Nobody wanted to play the Kings in the first round because of the Quick factor--a guy who shouldnt only be nominated for the vezina, but the hart as well--since he was the only reason LAK made the playoffs.

You also can't compare this Kings team to the Oilers back in 2006. The Oilers were legit underdogs--the kings were regular season underachievers with lots of talent, but the talent just didn't click until late in the season bc they desperately needed roster tinkering.

In terms of makeup and preseason expectations, Phoenix is more like the oilers of 2006 than the kings..


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Reply 136, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 864 times:

Quoting us330 (Reply 135):
he was the only reason LAK made the playoffs

*cough* Anze Kopitar *cough*  



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User currently offlinePHX787 From Japan, joined Mar 2012, 7757 posts, RR: 18
Reply 137, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 864 times:

Who the heck was it that flat-out tackled Shane Doan today? This is hockey, not NFL. That was a horrible penalty call by the refs too.


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User currently offlineconnies4ever From Canada, joined Feb 2006, 4066 posts, RR: 13
Reply 138, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 850 times:

Quoting WestJet747 (Reply 136):
Quoting us330 (Reply 135):
he was the only reason LAK made the playoffs

*cough* Anze Kopitar *cough*

I think it can safely be said that Anze Kopitar is the best Slovenian hockey player ever  

The goal last night was a thing of beauty, very soft and deft hands. Also taking the pass in his skates was well done.l



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User currently offlineus330 From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 3873 posts, RR: 14
Reply 139, posted (2 years 5 months 1 week 2 days ago) and read 844 times:

Quoting WestJet747 (Reply 136):
*cough* Anze Kopitar *cough*

*cough* team was 29th in total goals scored *cough*


User currently offlinePHX787 From Japan, joined Mar 2012, 7757 posts, RR: 18
Reply 140, posted (2 years 5 months 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 744 times:

I've gotten a chance to calm down after tonight's fiasco. I officially dislike LA. (using less strong words.)


Did anybody see any sort of physical confrontation between Doan and Smith and the refs after the game? or what happened?



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User currently offlineWestJet747 From Canada, joined Aug 2011, 1875 posts, RR: 10
Reply 141, posted (2 years 5 months 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 725 times:

Quoting PHX787 (Reply 140):
I've gotten a chance to calm down after tonight's fiasco. I officially dislike LA. (using less strong words.)

I hope you acted better than your team did! The Coyotes did not lose very graciously last night. Very disappointing to see Mike Smith throw his stick like a child after the game. I also hate when players (Shane Doan) accuse the refs of "playing for the other team" because they "wear the same colours". The reffing wasn't perfect (it rarely is), but the refs didn't lose Phoenix that series, Phoenix did. The refs got paid the exact same regardless of who won.

Quoting PHX787 (Reply 140):
Did anybody see any sort of physical confrontation between Doan and Smith and the refs after the game? or what happened?

No    did something go down? The only confrontation I saw was between Shane Doan and Dustin Brown when the teams were shaking hands.



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User currently offlinePHX787 From Japan, joined Mar 2012, 7757 posts, RR: 18
Reply 142, posted (2 years 5 months 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 692 times:

Quoting WestJet747 (Reply 141):
No did something go down? The only confrontation I saw was between Shane Doan and Dustin Brown when the teams were shaking hands.

I hoped those two went at it -_- such a horrible series for these guys.

Quoting WestJet747 (Reply 141):
I hope you acted better than your team did! The Coyotes did not lose very graciously last night. Very disappointing to see Mike Smith throw his stick like a child after the game. I also hate when players (Shane Doan) accuse the refs of "playing for the other team" because they "wear the same colours". The reffing wasn't perfect (it rarely is), but the refs didn't lose Phoenix that series, Phoenix did. The refs got paid the exact same regardless of who won.

I disagree, I really hoped Doaner and Smith chewed the ears off those refs. Mike Smith especially had every right to be pissed, because I honestly think, as a fellow goalie, not having a glove on your hand AND HAVING AND Irtysh-Avia (Kazakhstan)">IT SHAVED OFF YOUR HAND by someone charging at you is a huge safety issue, and I was honestly hoping Smitty would've chewed the ref's ear off to no end. That was a pathetic officiating performance.



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User currently offlineGuitrThree From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 2054 posts, RR: 8
Reply 143, posted (2 years 5 months 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 665 times:

So, anyone guess #6 Devils and #8 Kings?


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User currently offlineltbewr From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 13140 posts, RR: 15
Reply 144, posted (2 years 5 months 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 665 times:

Who would have thunk this: Devils v. Kings. Back in fall, the Devils were in trouble with injuries, but somehow got some waiver guys, some from their Albany farm club and got it together. I watched the game tonight, very hard hitting but clean, refs were fair and not too fussy, Broduar has to be one of the greatest goalies of all time. Rangers were petty good, got to give credit for a great season, I expect them to be back in the playoffs next year. Strange but kinda cool thing was that I was in the Pru earlier in the day to see my Devils fan Niece graduate from Seton Hall University Law School - she had a great and memorable day!

On to Stanley Cup # 4   


User currently offlineconnies4ever From Canada, joined Feb 2006, 4066 posts, RR: 13
Reply 145, posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 647 times:

Quoting ltbewr (Reply 143):
On to Stanley Cup # 4

Well, good luck with that. LA just too "Quick" for NJ. Also LA's best players are being their best players, not so for NJ. Where is Ilya ? This might go 5, but not more, I think. What odds would you have got last September that the Kings would win the Cup ?

Something in today's Globe and Mail showing just how ridiculous the situation in Phoenix has become, all due respect the few and the proud (i.e., Coyotes fans, all season long, not just the playoffs):

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/sport...ts-to-fund-coyotes/article4227354/

- Glendale city council essentially robbing the citizens of funds to develop and maintain required urban infrastructure;
- Jamison group "continuing to put equity together" means they have no money, or not nearly enough. It also indicates that if sufficient equity is raised to close the deal, this is likely to be a weak group and the NHL & Phoenix will be back in this position again in 2-3 years after the Glendale gift ends.

Just move the damn team now and get it over with.

Oh, b.t.w. for those who thought Winnipeg could not afford NHL hockey, 41 consecutive paid sellouts, also guaranteed going forward. The GM recently held a fan appreciation night where he indicated that the Jets revenue far exceeded budget and that the Jets will be in the upper half of revenue in the league, thus putting money into the equalisation fund. Which means Winnipeg will be subsidizing Phoenix.



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User currently offlineGuitrThree From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 2054 posts, RR: 8
Reply 146, posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 648 times:

Quoting ltbewr (Reply 143):
On to Stanley Cup # 4

Not so fast!!!

The Kings were the one team I didn't want my Preds to have to face. Unfortunately, they never made it there to even try. The Coyotes, who destroyed the Preds, then had no answer for the Kings. Nor will the Devils. Kings are just that good.

To throw in an aviation bonus, since this is Airliners.net, the last time NJ flew on a jet was after game 7 of the first round from Florida, APRIL 26TH!



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User currently offlineconnies4ever From Canada, joined Feb 2006, 4066 posts, RR: 13
Reply 147, posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 644 times:

Quoting GuitrThree (Reply 145):
To throw in an aviation bonus, since this is Airliners.net, the last time NJ flew on a jet was after game 7 of the first round from Florida, APRIL 26TH!

Last time NJ were out of their home time zone was I believe January 14th when they were in Winnipeg (2-1 NJ win).
They could possibly be suffering from "Jets"-lag.   

Hopefully this will all get wrapped up tomorrow night. Hockey in June does not make sense. I fondly remember the days when it was all done by late April or early May. Perhaps the NHL might consider going back to back-to-back games and a best-of-five prelim round.....nah, too much money at play.



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User currently onlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21685 posts, RR: 55
Reply 148, posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 643 times:

Last night's game was so embarrassing to watch. The Devils are showing no fight, no heart, no poise. Brodeur isn't playing badly, but he can't do it all.

I hope they can pull out a game, but unless they up their level of play, it's not going to happen. And I hate to point to one thing, because there are so many that have gone wrong, but I really think the series turned on Fayne missing the empty net in Game 1.

-Mir



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User currently offlineGrahamHill From France, joined Mar 2007, 2850 posts, RR: 2
Reply 149, posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks ago) and read 644 times:

Quoting GuitrThree (Reply 145):
Kings are just that good.

Yep, and they proved it again last night. 4-0, and it does not suffer any questioning! I really don't know what the Devils can do to beat this team. They're impossible to play!

On a side note, the Canadiens hired Michel Therrien as Head coach. I'm a bit doubtful, but time will tell.



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User currently offlineYVRLTN From Canada, joined Oct 2006, 2493 posts, RR: 0
Reply 150, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 644 times:

Quoting connies4ever (Reply 144):
What odds would you have got last September that the Kings would win the Cup ?

Incredible... maybe this is the lesson for certain teams to learn. Play crap in the season, then up the tempo and play like stars in the play offs.

The two OT's were of course close, but after the 4-0 I have a feeling tomorrow night will be the final game of the season.



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User currently offlinePSA53 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3072 posts, RR: 4
Reply 151, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 641 times:

I'm almost hoping the Kings will lose tonight.NBC hold the TV rights on the series and they're going to put it on NBCsports channel which is just crap.If the series switch to Jersey,then NBC will show it.But It's beautiful static AM radio tonight.Maybe I'll go crash Obama's fund raiser.Oh.yeah.He's in town,again.


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User currently offlinePSA53 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3072 posts, RR: 4
Reply 152, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 638 times:

Hmm...I got deleted.Why? Was it NBC no coverage or the Obama joke? But it was clean no matter what.


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User currently onlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21685 posts, RR: 55
Reply 153, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 642 times:

There will be a Game 5. The Devils played their best game of the series tonight. They'll need to build on this one - there's still a long way to go.

-Mir



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User currently offlinePHX787 From Japan, joined Mar 2012, 7757 posts, RR: 18
Reply 154, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 630 times:

And BOOM F*** Los Angeles!!!!

(butthurt...sorry)



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User currently onlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21685 posts, RR: 55
Reply 155, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 635 times:

Well, a complete disaster for the Devils. A penalty that shouldn't have happened led to three (THREE!) goals, and that was that. I feel like crap for Brodeur, who kept the team in this series, is the reason there was even a Game 6, and deserved a whole lot better. He's still one of the best in the business, and I'll take him on my team in a heartbeat.

Congrats to the Kings, who took advantage of all the opportunities the Devils gave them (and there were many), and deserved to win it.

-Mir



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User currently offlineblink182 From Azerbaijan, joined Oct 1999, 5482 posts, RR: 15
Reply 156, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 635 times:

That was an ugly game. Congrats to the Kings though; they were clearly the better of the two teams. I guess LA's fan(s?) can finally get over Marty McSorely's illegal stick curve.


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User currently offlineEmirates773ER From Pakistan, joined Jun 2005, 1450 posts, RR: 9
Reply 157, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 636 times:

Wonder if anyone in LA even knows that they just won the Stanley Cup.


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User currently offlinebmacleod From Canada, joined Aug 2001, 2309 posts, RR: 0
Reply 158, posted (2 years 4 months 2 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 628 times:

Well Kings win it all. That 5 minute Devils penalty in 1st period was a real killer for them.


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User currently offlineconnies4ever From Canada, joined Feb 2006, 4066 posts, RR: 13
Reply 159, posted (2 years 4 months 1 week 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 625 times:

Now that the Kings are indeed Kings, it's awards dinner then the amateur draft. For the awards I'll take:

Vezina - James Quick
Art Ross - Stamkos I believe was the leader (would have been Giroux if he'd stayed healthy)
Lady Byng - maybe they'll give it to Syd as a consolation prize
Norris - Hmmm....Ericsson in Ottawa had a great year, so did Doughty in LA, but I'll stick with Lidstrom
Rocket Richard - Stamkos again
Coach of the Year .... Darryl Sutter ?
Calder...can't really think of a truly outstanding rookie, to be honest

Did I miss any ?

Draft day will be interesting, not expected to be a great draft. Next year however is already being touted as a great draft year. Jets pick about 9th or 10th. Will be interesting to see what they do. I think they'll pick a forward as they frequently had trouble scoring. Both Mark Scheifele and Ivan Telegin should get good looks at training camp as well.



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User currently onlineMir From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 21685 posts, RR: 55
Reply 160, posted (2 years 4 months 1 week 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 622 times:

Quoting connies4ever (Reply 158):
Calder...can't really think of a truly outstanding rookie, to be honest

Henrique should get it IMO, but I'm not exactly unbiased.

-Mir



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User currently offlineconnies4ever From Canada, joined Feb 2006, 4066 posts, RR: 13
Reply 161, posted (2 years 4 months 1 week 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 620 times:

Well, my last contribution seems to have been deleted. Although no e-mail notification.

Now that LA have won the cup, it's on to the NHL Awards in Vegas, then the amateur draft.

For the awards I'll suggest:

Vezina - Jonathan Quick
Art Ross - Steve Stamkos
Rocket Richards - Steve Stamkos
Norris - could be any of Doughty, Lidstrom, or Weber, but I'll stick with Lidstrom
Calder - Ryan Nugent-Hopkins
Hart - Quick again

Draft may be ho-hum, though. Next year is what the scouts are excited about. My guys (Jets) pick 9th.

Kins deserved their win, though. Played amazing hockey throughout the playoffs.



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